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I've been getting mouth ulcers all my life. I've spend lots
of money on all kinds of different medication and tips. Recently
I got a whole bunch of them in my mouth just about everywhere.
I met a guy who had the same problem but gave me a suggestion
that made my problems go away. First sign of a ulcer you take
3000mg of Lysine until they are gone. I started taking them and
they went away in no time. As if I never had them. Just to be
on the save side, take maybe 1000mg every day for prevention.
I also suggest brushing your teeth with biotene toothpaste. Try
please could somebody tell grantyman what lysine is.
lysine is an amino acid generally used for treating herpes
simplex virus infections (i.e. cold sores and the like). the fact
that it works for Phil and his friend lends more to the argument
that there is a definate viral connection with mouth ulcers although
as we all know, there is no common cause and so this treatment
may well not work for some of us. anyhoo, i'm off to find out
where i can get me some lysine and to bomb the h.q. of bonjela
for inflicting so much pain... if any1 knows where you can get
lysine in the U.K. then please post here...
dont u have anyside effects,by using such large amount of
lysine,and also tell me what lysine is.
you can buy lysine in holland and barret or similar health
is there any link with herpes
Lysine is an amino acid which just means it it a building
block of protein. It is quite safe to take in that amount. It
is just part of a vegatable protein. Works wonders for cold sores
on the lips.
This Lysine sounds great. I'm off to the chemist to find
out what it is called here (Australia) and will post the name
as soon as I find out. Good luck to everyone and thanks for the
so there are no side effets of this Lysine right?...
Well, I rushed off and bought some Lysine on Thursday (yes
it is called Lysine in Australia). Friday I had the most painful
time I have ever had, so went to my doctor this morning. He said
that Lysine is great - most often used for cold sores, but the
reason it works with mouth ulcers too is that it's main function
is to help heal soft tissue and it's also great for the immune
system. Says Phil's suggestion to take 1000mg per day as a precaution
is sound advice. He also suggested that I use soluble aspirin
(or paracetamol) as a mouth wash for temporary relief. However,
his main advice to me, which I'll take on Monday, is to go and
have a tooth with a sharp edge either capped or extracted (at
$2000 for a cap, I'll be having the extraction). It's a back tooth
and has served me well for more than 60 years, but it's going
to have to go ! I've had mouth ulcers for as long as I can remember,
but the past six weeks or so, it's just been without a break -
coincides with when I had my teeth scaled by the dentist. Another
thing the doctor mentioned is that repeated attacks, such as I've
had recently, are prone to turn cancerous, so it's not something
to be neglected. Hope this info is helpful to some people out
there - and incidentally, the aspirin wash seems to be more effective
and certainly less painful than bongela or seda-gel.
Vodka works too! I had a martini last night and no more
pain, no more ulcer in the am. Use L-Lysine but didn't get started
this bout til a few days later so didn't have great results. Now
that I'vediscovered the magic of vodka I will try this next time
Robin in Australia,
It's not a good idea to write something off as rubbish just
because it hasn't been your experience. I had the experience of
mouth ulcers becoming cancerous. After eighteen months of extensive
treatment, including plastic surgery I'm still far from well.
Also, I'm a registered nurse and in my long career have come across
about six people who have suffered the same thing, so although
it's not common, it's certainly not impossible. I didn't get the
impression Robin was worried, just that he was responsibly passing
I have also heard that L-lysine works but that you shouldn't
be on it for a long time as it may increase your cholesterol.
Has anyone heard that one?????
I am not sure if Vodka works. I remember developing multiple
sores the night after I had a good amount of Vodka. That makes
me believe that liquor/vodka might be bringing down the level
of Vtamin B, which could have lead to sores.
Another sound advice apart from taking Lysie is to take
up to 5000 mg of Vitamin C. It does help with the healing.
Hi, I've now been reading this wonderful site for several
weeks and have taken on board quite a few suggestions. I'm taking
the Lysine every day - don't know if it works, but am sure it's
beneficial in general terms. About a week ago, I stared using
a Difflam spray - it says spray direct on to the affected area,
which I find very difficult, so I spray some into the palm of
my hand and dab it on with a finger. I also use Kenalog in Orabase
at bedtime. (That probably has various names, but the Orabase
is the main word to look for). I hate the feel of it in my mouth,
but for the past three days, I have had no pain whatsoever - having
been living in unrelieved torment for weeks. Hope this is of some
help to others. Regards
I've been getting Canker Sores for a long time,they come
and go and nobody knows what causes them. Well, sometimes drinking
beer,spicy foods,stress might be the cause too I find. I take
Lysine and Vitamin C too. Oh, I HATE when I get the Cankers. They
just put me in a bad mood.AND! I seem to get a feeling that I
have a fever too! My heart pounds faster also.
WE NEED TO FIND A CURE!!!.........FAST!!!
I once had a doctor give me LIDOCAINE. I used it to rinse
and it numbed my mouth so I can eat and talk.
After suffering for 16 years with Ulcerative Colitis my
consultant at the hospital said my mouth ulcers were related to
I have a strong belief that these ulcers are mostly "stomach
disorders" related. I have had these ulcers for years and
have found gastrointestical disorders as the most probable cause.For
these disorders you have to take lot of water and less food.Will
My biggest suggestion... WATER! I used to get ulcers for
no reason. They appeared for nothing and lasted ages. For nonrelated
reasons, i began to drink 1 litre of pure water(not mineral or
spring) every single morning for the past 9 months. I swear, now
the only time i get the ulcers is when i bite my cheek, or burn
my mouth with hot drink. WATER. Im TELLIN YA!
SO...does lysine thingy actually work? and how long does
it take? is there a faster remedy?
I have been getting a big dose of ulcers later. About 6 in
my mouth and now one on my lip that seems to be spreading. Could
they really turn cancerous. I've gone out and bought a big bottle
of lysine. The pharmacist took a look and thought it was.....
well something he'd never seen. Told me to go to the doctors and
get it checked out for cancer. But it must be related to the other
ulcers I've been getting in my mouth....or why so soon after.
Does anyone think that alcohole causes ulcers? Rob
I'm past 60 years old and didn't realize how many people
suffer from mouth ulcers like me. Akbar, you may have somthing
with the "stomach disorder" relationship. I've tried many
products to help the problem, but I'm now using "Acidophilus"
from nutrition express (its the refrigerated kind with a shelf
life that works best for me) If you try it let me know how it
works for you.
Has anyone noticed an increase in their ulcers after drinking
too much coffee for prolonged periods?
Lysine truly works for me I take it every day and I ran out
and kept forgetting to buy some more and I had an outbreak of
3 of the ****ing thingys for 3 weeks and finally got some more
lysine and took 2 in morning and 2 at night until they quickly
disappeared. Lysine rocks!!!!!
I am a big time sufferer of cold sores however, since I reduced
my dairy intake to absolute minimum - touch wood, it's been brilliant.
I still get them from time to time but nothing as before. I too
have been told by a pharmacist to take the Lysine and it's just
great. In Australia it's made by Blackmores and called Lyp-sine
which has the Vit C & Zinc in it also - excellent for the
healing process !
First time user of this site - forgive my naivety. Got a
really painful cold sore and don't het them that often. Tried
bonjela - what a waste of time! The survey says take salt or saline.
Explain?! I'm in pain.
First time on-site as now suffering increased incidence
for several months. My Traditional Chinese Dr (BRILLIANT) says
(a) alcohol cause [ANY - wine or spirit, Alcohol is a POISON!
Ouch!!!] (b)Digestive system malfunction,- causes vary in individuals
but Stress (see survey) most common, + allergenic reaction to
Caffeine / dairy frequently undiagnosed. Will now try Lysine.
Adcortyl made mine WORSE, Anbesol relieves. THANKS for site!
After reading through the above, thought I'd give Lysine
a go. Had an ulcer when I started taking it - had been with me
for 10 days, cleared up within 3 days of taking the Lysine. Got
aother ulcer developing about a week after that, and here's the
good bit, that remained for just 2 days! - never had an ulcer
disappear so quickly in my life. Have continued taking a 100mg/day
and haven't had an ulcer in three weeks. Lysine in the UK can
be got from Holland & barrett (£5.99 for 60 tablets).This
stuff seems to work!
Thanks Robin will try Lysine from Holland & Barrett and
hope it works for me. Have had mouth ulcers for two years non
stop.Tried every thing even been to dental hospital, doctor who
took 3 blood test's and 2 dentists.
HEY I'M GUNNA TRY THAT LYSINE IT SOUNDS GOOD TOO ME. CRIKYS
I CAN'T EAT OR DRINK ANYTHING HOT. I HAVE EVER ONLY GOT ONE AT
A TIME A COUPLE A YEAR. THIS TIME THE LITTLE SUCKERS ARE TAKING
OVER WELL NOT FOR LONG IF THIS LYSINE WORKS!!!!!!!!!1
Hi it's my first time here but I'm finding all this really
helpful and I never realised so many people suffered from these
things. At the moment I have six ulcers all over my mouth and
can't eat, drink or talk without pain!! I'm going out in my lunch
hour to get some of that Lysine and I will let you know what happens.
thanks everyone for all the advice!
I have for a long time suffered from mouth ulcers, today
I have had an appointment at the hospital and for the first time
in years they have said that my body may be rejecting the necessary
vitamins needed. I had blood tests several months ago and they
detected that my body was lacking in certain vitmans, folic acid
and iron etc. They told me to take multi vitamins, iron and folic
acid, I did and my mouth improved, so did my blood results. This
morning the hospital told me to stop taking my vitamin supplements
and see what happens. If my levels drop again this could be due
to a stomach disorder! This is the first time this has been mentioned
but does make sense. The consultant thought that my body was rejecting
necessary vitamins. I go back at the end of August to see how
I go on without the supplements.
I am 34 and have 2 children - this is so odd we all get mouth
ulcers at the same time, I have been told to try aloclair has
anybody tried this I have 3 at the moment - they always get worse
when I go abroad on holiday and I go next week any good tips from
anybody help!!! however, I am going out tomorrow to buy some Lysine.
I have theses darn things on my tongue at least once a month
and they keep coming back.. I am sick of them! PLEASE WHAT DO
I DO TO GET RID OF THEM FOR GOOD?!?!
just a quick word on lysine, it's much cheaper to buy it
online than holland & barrett and you'll also get a much higher
quality product (i recommend Solgar brand)
Thats it, i'm vexed, i feel like getting some c4 explosives
and blowing up my mouth, and ive only got 2 ulcers!! some of these
people have like 10 and have had them for years! I can't handle
them, ive had ulcers since the summer of 2002 and i'm 19 years
old now and i'm going mad and they get me in a bad mood and i
feel like going crazy and shouting AAAAAAAAAGGGGH IM GOING TO
KILL YOU ULCER!!!
This is a great site, it's great to know that others are
sharing this affliction. Just recently 2 ulcers have appeared
on my gums underneath my lower front teeth which I find strange,
I have been racking my brains trying to figure out why as I have
never had mouth ulcers there before or onmy gums and I have rarely
ever had them, maybe the odd one on my tounge over the years but
they have always gone away in a day or two. These ones are painful
and are hanging around which I don't like. Whats interesting is
that I have in the last couple of months started drinking a lot
of coffee which I don't normally do (due to the fabulous coffee
machine at work where I am temping) and also just started taking
some multivitamins which I don't usually do that often either.
I take 1000mgs of Vit C every day though for the last year which
has meant a lot less colds and much improved general immunity
but it doesn't seem to have mattered in this case of mouth ulcers.
Interesting. I take Lysine occasionally for coldsores and will
keep trying this but if this works it makes me wonder if these
ulcers are linked to that virus.Anyway thanks all for the great
tips. That thing about Alcohol being poison I'm sure is true,
I'm studying naturopathy and coffee is a big no no as well. No
more Cappucino's or hot chocolates for me!
Hi, just found this site and THANK GOD!! I have had reoccuring
mouth ulcers since puberty (I'm now 30) having up to 15 of the
little (well not that little...)buggers at any one time, on my
tongue, lips, roof of mouth and even on my tonsils. I'm also off
to Holland and Barrett to try this Lysine and will have my fingers
crossed. Incidently the only time I didn't have ulcers was when
I was pregnant with my two kids (of course I'm not recommending
this as a form of treatment....!)
hi, i've been undergoing investigation by a professor in
london to see if there is anything he can do, i've tried everything
on the market and nothing works. it gets so bad at times i feel
like giving in to the suckers. eating is a pain, aswell as talking
and drinking. i had one the size of a 10pence piece on the back
of my throat and that just about did me in, until it came the
time when i had 17 at once, it's a living h**l, i didn't know
how many people were in the same boat. it's nice to know i am
not alone. havn't tried this lysine stuff, but when i am next
in town will certainly give it a go. thanks for all your advice
Man, lydia i feel for you, can't believe the little fuckers
can get that bad, you had 17 at once!? i thought 2 was bad enough,
theres got to be some cure out there.....
Hello... I think mouth ulcers are a living hell. I started
getting them after I was hospitalized with salmonella, and then
repeatedly after that. I thought it had something to do with all
the stomach problems I had afterwards (but I feel this started
it all off)...but oh no... now every month before my periods I
get them at the moment I've got a huge one on the roof of my mouth
which is giving me ear ache, 2 on my lower gum at the front of
my mouth and 1 at the corner of my mouth. Great laugh... This
has been going on for 10 years and I suppose I've just got use
to it and try to eat and drink bland things when I have them..
Hate to be miserable but it gets me down that we all of us
have to use these lists to share our experiences because of the
absolute cluelessness when it comes to what causes ulcers and
what can help them. I have had mouth ulcers for most of my life,
since I was a pre-teen, on and off. Currently, for the second
time in almost two years, I am utterly infested! My whole mouth
is carpeted in them and they seem to feed on my intention to get
rid! Due to my experience with them, I am used to just seeing
them out. Indeed, I should have learned from this and the last
carpet bombing when I used homeopathic medicine - BIG MISTAKE.
Straight away they flared, but I carried on taking them in the
belief they would help. A visit to Glasgow Dental Hospital when
I was visiting (God love that city - I don't know where to look
in my native London!) brought the only reliable answer I have
ever come across - steroids for gargling. Well, this time I have
tried saline (negligible), ibuprofen (no difference) and ambesol
(actually made it worse). I would go to my doctor but since he
has misdiagnosed me in the past, I don't have any faith in him.
Think maybe I should have laid off the self-help and just gone
to the doctors straight away? Oh for hindsight, eh?...
To those of you above who have said you were going to try
Lysine - have you tried it and does it work?
An observation: i often get them, however, i remember of
two different occasions when i have accidently made them bleed,
(through biting or whatever)and the little buggers have vanished.
Has anyone else had this experience? Now i have a really bad one
that i need to make disapear as im off away next week and i dont
want it to annoy me....but im not psychotic enough to deliberately
make it bleed. SO, has anyone else found this?
I never had a ulcer/cold sore in my life till I married
my husband who has had them all his life! Now I get them mostly
when he gets them....only not as bad. Sometimes they folow a nerve
and actually mimick a tooth ache....or sore throat!!! Ouch....they
I often get attacks when I can hardly talk for the pain.
I have to talk through clenched teeth. I eat soup and pears either
canned or fresh don't seem to cause pain. I get mine after I have
been eating too much buiscuites bread or anything with white flour
on it (especially scones). But do I get them because I am allergic
to the flour or because I am eating all this stuff because I am
stressed out. When I get them I drink lots of water, fruit and
veges, and home made soup with meat and veges,so I don't have
to chew. Think positive (if you can possibly bear to).. eating
like this could lose me some weight. In summer when it is Mango
season, I eat at least 3 mangos every day. and I don't see a stupid
ulcer all season. does this mean more vit. C ? Listen all you
budding chemists out there! If you can find a reliable cure you
WILL become a millionair!
Also I would like to thank who ever set up this wonderful
site. I have never been able to find any info that I could relate
to about this pest of an affliction till now. The ulcers I have
now are even making my ear ache. And they are so unsociable. Hard
to eat gracefully when your teeth are clenched with the pain isn't
it. And I find it hard to talk properly when I can hardly move
my tounge for want of crying. Anyway at least my family gets some
peace and quite and my husband is finaly able to get a word in
L-Lysine really does work for the mouth ulcers, I take one
500mg tablet every day (in Australia Nature's Own is the cheapest
I've found), & it prevents them flaring into a full on painful
ulcer if I accidently bite my lip or gums or knock them with the
toothbrush( if I do get one I up the dosage to two tabs morning
& night and it quickly goes away)......it really does work.
I also didn't get any when I was pregnant(didn't take L-Lysine
when I was pregnant either).
I have read and reread all the messages and have come up
with one inguiry...."IS there a vitamin that contains zinc,
magesium and lysine"? In other word's a vitamin especially
for preventing these horrible tongue sores?
Hi guys... I have just stumbled apon this site - MY GOD we
all share the same f**king problem!
It seems we are all in the same boat! I never realised either
how many people are affected. Have been getting them badly for
about two years now and have one now right at the back of the
underside of my tongue and is also making my glands swollen like
a sore throat and ear ache. Have been using Corsydyl mouthwash
(disgusting-also affects your stomach and makes you feel sick)
and bonjela (only numbs the pain for about half an hour-rubbish).
Lysine seems to be the most common successful cure so am off to
try and find some this affternoon!
Has anyone talked to a dr about Lysine? I have been taking
500 mg and it has had no effect, I have the worst canker sore
of my life, right beneath a sharp tooth. I upped it to 3000mg,
but I have had the cankor sore for 2 weeks and it's going to start
getting better with or without lysine after this length of time.
What dosage is safe to take, how often can it be taken and for
I have a way of controlling my mouth ulcers thanks to a
web page that I stumbled across when I was looking, believe it
or not, for a yacht to charter. Who ever wrote the page really
knows what we suffer and I have tried their methods and thats
why I am giving myself the nickname PAINFREE.
Thank you, very genuine, like a breath of aerobic oxygen...
Has anyone else tried junior aspirins (the soluble kind)
applied locally (ie. placed directly on the offending ulcer).
Even in my case right now with just about my whole mouth covered,
this works really well. To put it in context, I have been prescribed
a benzydamide hydrochloride mouthwash, and though this is okay
(it numbs my mouth for about an hour and a half), it doesn't come
close to matching the aspirins for killing the pain and reducing
the swelling. The pharmacist who recommended it said it was old
fashioned, so I assume people here must have tried it. It is the
best solution I have come across yet and can only think that,
if it works for me with the huge and numerous ulces I have now,
then surely it must be worth people having a pop. Cheap, too.
i have in the past two hours taken 2000 mils of Lysine...im
hoping to see some change very very soon! However, i have been
researching this Lysine, and i have descovered that you get it
from fish and meat and whatnot...i eat these all the time so i
cant think i will be deficient and so i am not holding out for
any change -
i dont think it is so much a deficiency gazzy, lots of supplements
have beneficial effects if taken in addition to what you receive
through your diet, although you do need to thoroughly research
the effects of high dose whatever as there are some serious side
effects with certain substances.
Regarding probiotic supplements (good bacteria) and Lysine
(amino acid) - I am wondering if either or both would be most
effective if actually absorbed through the mouth rather than swallowed
I have suffered from recurrent ulcers for ten years and
have tried everything. I have tried Lysine but did not see any
tremendous difference. I have recently been sent to the Dental
hospital in Newcastle and they recommended I use Gengigel gel.
I have tried this and had amazing results, the pain from my ulcers
went in about 24hours and they healed within 3 to 4 days. The
more frequently you apply it the quicker it seems to work. The
only thing I am waiting to see is if I keep using it whether it
will stop my ulcers coming back - I will let you know. It is also
really effective with Lichen Planus as I suffer as well.
Interesting Tom, I too have lichen planus, on the back of
one hand, which seems to be getting better along with my ulcers
now that i am taking lysine (i only started taking it 1 week ago..)
does gingigel list its active ingredients by any chance?
I've suffered from ulcer outbreaks as frequently as once
a week for the last 10 years. I've tried lots of stuff such as
Kanka (made them worse) and Cank-aid (did nothing).
Monkey, Gengigel is based on a substance called hyaluronic
acid which is produced by the body as part of the body's natural
healing process. Apparantly it has been used in the medical area
for many years to help promote natural healing particularly with
burns patients. The dental hospital at Newcastle told me that
a number of dental hospitals are now using it with thier Lichen
Planus patients with excellent results. The big advantage of Gengigel
is that it is natural and there are no known side effects and
it can be used by Children and anybody who are taking other medication
I have the same problem as everyone else!! But I am 48 years
old and just started this about a year ago. What's up w/ this
I asked my docter? Of course he didn't know why it would start
now in my life. He puts me on Valtrex. I have taken bottles of
it -no more it does nothing. I went to my ENT docter and of course
Valtrex again. I told him I wasn't taking it anymore, it does
no good. So he also put me on prednisone. This seems to get rid
of them quicker but they still come back. And I really don't want
to take prednisone for ever! I have started taking Lysine and
supplementing w/ vitamins. We'll see what happens. This is the
worse thing that has ever happened. Also I have found that on
the first sign of a canker sore i apply Gly-Oxide to the sores
and every night before bed I rinse my mouth w/ half Mylanta and
half liquid Benedryl this helps. Everything else over the counter
for numbness or pain is about a waste of time! When they are really
bad to the point I cannot eat or drink I swish my nouth w/ Lidocaine.
Whatever it takes! Any help from anyone would be appreciated.
I'm New at this at 48!!!
I've suffered with mouth ulcers since I was a kid but they
got a lot worse in my late 20's. One preventative measure that
hasn't been mentioned here that REALLY helped me was changing
toothpaste to one without Sodium Laurel Sulfate (SLS). Nearly
all toothpastses have this foaming agent but don't put it on the
list of ingredients. Anyway, I noticed about 2 weeks after I started
brushing with non-SLS toothpaste, my mouth ulcers almost dissappeared.
SLS... not mentioned ??
1. Stop using SLS toothpaste
Ye Have a go at the method discribed on the web site I found
and mentioned in a message on this board 21st June above. It works
wonders for me.
Man alive ... this lysine thing better work! I've been in
pain for 4 days now and I've got a connect-the-dot picture happening
on the inside of my mouth! Haven't had an outbreak like this in
bloody years! Thanks for all the advice, I'm going to hunt down
this herbal remedy ASAP.
PAINFREE, I tried to pull up the website you suggested and
cannot get it. Is this right? www.snowdoniayc.co.uk/oxygen.htm?
PAINFREE, All I get is compact oxygen generator?
OK Try going the way I found it in the first place I was
looking for a yacht charter so just go to www.snowdoniayc.co.uk
then look on their links page for the link to the Oxygen site.
There is also alink to it in the Inventory section of their
site. In red in the bit about the gally good huntin I just tried
the address as you typed it minus the ? of course and it took
Having suffered with the foul things for 36 years, I was
finding toothpaste seemed to be a particular irritant. Three months
ago, a pharmacist suggested brushing my teeth with bicarbonate
of soda powder - and IT WORKED LIKE A MIRACLE FOR ME! It not only
healed the ulcers, it also prevents new ones coming. It's not
particularly pleasant but who cares if it prevents the misery
of mouth ulcers. Bicarbonate of soda is (among other things) a
cleaning agent, and is therefore very suitable for teeth-cleaning.
Every day is like a holiday still, when I get up and realise that
I have no mouth ulcers - again! I do hope other people might find
it works for them too.
To unnamed above: you could try zinc picolinate, which works
for me (see my separate message of the 17th June).
Rembrant has a toothpaste specifically for canker sore sufferers.
It is supposed to help you avoid canker sores. Give it a try!
I've been plagued by ulcers my whole life and they seem to
flare whenever i eat/drink anything made of chocolate/cocoa and
3-in-1 coffee. Right now there are 2 under the right side of my
tongue, 2 on the left side of my mouth and some (2-3) at the back
of my tongue. I feel slightly feverish too. I've just attended
a meeting today and it was pure TORTURE whenever i have to say
anything. It makes me feel slightly better knowing there are others
who know how i feel! I usu have a hard time explaining my condition
to my colleagues/friends! I've just bought Biotene-SLS free and
Daktarin oral gel to try. Will also be getting Lysine tomorrow.
Will post result here. Thanks for such a great site!
Just to let you know how lysine worked for me.
Update as promised: L-lysine really works for me!
One more thing: does anyone feel there's a link between these
ulcers and Vit.c supplement, both chewable and the buffered kind
Hi i have just found this site,guess where iam going tomorrow,holland
and barett,but tonight iam in pain with this great big ulcer,so
here goes luke warm water and salt,here me scream..
Goto www.snowdoniayc.co.uk/oxygen.htm I found a go method
of managing the problem there.
From the manufacturer of AerobicOxygen I quote... "Aerobic
Oxygen does not have a formula, it is a compound created by a
process and reaction to the ingredients used to produce the non-toxic,
stable oxygen compound that it is." ...no chemical formula?
How is that possible?
Don't knock it till you have tried it. Mybe you realy enjoy
the suffering as for me I remain yours Pain Free.
Well, my first day on this website. I have been suffering
for more than 15 years (and I'm only 25 years old now). No body
wants to guess, I am leaving work for Lysine.
'From the manufacturer of AerobicOxygen I quote... "Aerobic
Oxygen does not have a formula, it is a compound created by a
process and reaction to the ingredients used to produce the non-toxic,
stable oxygen compound that it is." ...no chemical formula?
How is that possible?'
Man, am I glad I found this site! Been having these bastards
since I was 10! I am now 22. I find that stress levels & alcohol
have nothing to do with my outbreaks. I have 4 on my tongue &
1 on my lip at the moment and I am presently on holiday (i.e.
no stress) & haven't had any alcohol for 2 weeks - promise!
(gave it up after a nasty experience the other week...) Going
to the doctor tomorrow 2 find out about Lysine. I've tried EVERY
mouth wash & cream known to man! This is my last resort!!!
Will let u guys know what happens...
By the way... I found that Med-Lemon (I think it's called
Lem-Sip elsewhere) really helps to kill the pain. I suspect its
Bless you all. Didn't know there were so many others. The
doctors I've been to have made me feel like I was from Mars, they
don't know the pain. Got one, (just one thank God), but the size
of a nickle on the inside of my lower lip. Had it for about a
month, (the normal time period for me). I take Lidocaine for the
pain. Without it I would go insane I sure. Just started with these
things about 4 years ago why now at 50? Had some Lysine in my
med cabinet, silly me. Just now took 1000MG, let's see how it
works, I tryed everything else. Thanks all for the info and support.
I've suffered from mouth ulcersn for most of my life (I'm
34 now, and remember getting them as young as 5). My 5 year old
son has also been getting them since about age 2. I always thought
that I was the only one with these!! I too noticed that they decreased
(almost none) while I was pregnant with both my boys. One question
- does anyone else have links with other types of herpes? I suffered
from shingles when I was about 12, which is a type of herpes (a
more serious, more painful chicken pox). At that time, the Drs
said I had a weakness towards the herpes viruses. Soon after,
I also developed an outbreak of genital herpes (related to the
shingles they thought since I was a "good girl" at the
time!!) My theory is that they are related to the mouth ulcers.
For treatment, my best bet is L-lysine, taken consistently. Also
apply on over-the-counter pain killer, like Kanka before every
meal or when you need to talk! My record was about 15 on my tongue
at one time. What a pain!
We definately need more research on the herpes/viral link.
Conventional medecine says that there is no link at all but I
can't help wondering if that ain't quite right. Having said that,
my wife suffers from cold sores but never mouth ulcers whilst
I am the opposite.....Maybe there is a much greater variation
in the types of herpes virus than previously thought. I'm off
to trawl the net (again) on this one....
I only get ulcers on my tongue. Is this common?
I'm also intrigued by this herpes/viral link as I have recently
been diagnosed with Glandular Fever and have probably had it for
the last 6 months. In this time the ulcers have got worse. They
are bigger, more numerous and don't seem to heal up at all. Thay
cause my tonsils to flare up and my glands swell and become painful.
It HAS to be connected. Incidently am I the only one Lysine DIDN'T
work for? Also the fact that a few of us found that they became
non-existant when pregnant could maybe suggest a hormonal link?
I would like to know, does anyone get cold sores and mouth
ulcers? Just from talking to people over the years I feel that
people have one or the other but not both. I'd really like to
know if this is true?
I also think it is a virus that we have in our system that
breaks out when our defences are down. This could be triggered
by different things in different people. But where do you think
we get it from, because I am the only one in a family of 5 kids
that has it, though my sister gets cold sores. I have had them
for as long as I can remember.
Melissa, thats an interesting point about glandular fever.
I had recurring glandular fever for about 3 years when I was a
teenager and I learnt that the virus stays with you for the rest
of your life. I wonder how many of us here have had it at some
point, as it is very easily transmitted, and if it has a part
in the whole mouth ulcer thing....
I am 100% sure mouth ulcers have a root cause in a Virus/Bacteria.
Stress and various foodstuffs are just a trigger. I used to get
coldsores 5/6 times a year until a few years ago when I tried
Zovirax ( Sp ) and now hardly ever have one. I'm gonna stick my
neck out along with many others and say that this Virus may be
the cause of some cancers, and you guessed it I have cancer of
the Colon, which started as an ulcer in the lining of the Rectum,
the lining of the mouth is not dissimilar.
That sucks Tammus, max. sympathy on that one. I was reading
about the link between the epstein-barr virus (a herpes virus
which causes glandular fever) and 2 kinds of cancer, 1 a form
of lymphoma and the other a carcinoma of the nasal passages- also
a delicate mucous membrane area....the link has been established
for nearly 40 years now but still doesnt seem to play a major
part in treatment developement, surely it is in everyones interest
to prevent the general infection of the population by these viruses,
particularly the herpes ones? I fail to see why the pharmaceutical
companies arent chasing this rigourously as there is surely a
lot of money to be made here?
I get the Herpes cold sore virus (although not much these
days - due to Lysine use) but I still get mouth ulcers and I do
think there is a link there. At times when I could barely speak
because it was so painful and they were on my tongue and inside
of my mouth I have put bicarb soda on them. I virtually pass out
with the pain that causes but it changes the pH in the mouth and
numbs it for awhile and eventually helps them go away. I use this
only as the last resort. I link them with a sensitive gut as well.
I can eat anything and drink (alcohol/coffee) what I like but
if my stress levels go up, I find I don't digest properly, plus
if I am close to a period - bang! mouth ulcers. Remember that
beta - carotene (orange vegies like carrot and sweet potato) is
good for mucus membranes. I also try and get hold of wheat grass
as well (high in vitamin Bs). Before we resort to pharmaceuticals(which
treat symptoms not causes)we should try manipulating our diet.
We are all individuals and from all these emails we have all different
causes and treatments.
I have been having Mouth Ulcers for the last 35 years. Of
late, the frequency and severity has increased. I shall try Lysine
and get back with my opinion. I am not sure whether I can get
Lysine in India.
i have been getting mouth ulcers for as long as i can remember
in batches no less that 15 a time ive never been to the doctors
with them and after reading all this im getting worried. all ive
ever used is bonjela which is a twat does any one have any better
suggestions that i can get from the chemist before i go crazy??
Another bit of information for those who suffer with ulcers
Hmm dunno about this 'excess body heat' stuff, I've eaten
loads of chilli, garlic, ginger and booze all my life and had
periods of no ulcers for months at a time. Also stopping eating
these things means a ruddy boring diet and they are also extremely
good for you (well mebbe not the booze...!)Chillis are a well
known source of vitamin c and antioxidants, garlic is a natural
antibiotic and fantastic system tonic- as is also ginger. To state
that this is the sole cause of mouth ulcers is, frankly, unfair
and unfounded. If it really was that simple then we would all
have found this out a long time ago and this message board would
be a very lonely place.... What we need is some hard evidence
compiled from some serious research; what next? My mouth ulcers
are caused by my chakras being upside down? Give me a break, I
know my body better than that.....
I have gotten more Info, and help from this site in a week
than I have from my GP ( Doc ) in 10 years. Monkey I tend to agree
with you about Knowing your Body. I am sure some Doctors do not
believe the " Virus Theory " and prefer to believe it
is all in the mind, they think all the KILLER viruses have been
conquered ( which they have to an extent ) and put it down to
things like your lifestyle, or poor dental hygiene.
my young son gets mouth ulcer, wonder if any relation to
school sore's, are these related to the herpe's virus as he once
had a bad case of two strains of school sore.
The Lysine definitely works for us. When we first notice
a sign of getting a cold sore or mouth ulcers in the mouth, tongue
or wherever- we start taking the lysine. We've been doing this
for many years and it always works. It may take a few days, if
you wait too long before starting the lysine. We don't take it
all the time, only when we get the signs of getting one.
I am a 64 year old women, who has been getting mouth ulcers
for the past year. Usually I get 1 or 2 under my tongue I have
talked to my Doctor and he suggested rinsing with salt. I have
tried it, sometimes it works. I have noticed that when I eat fruit,
especially plums, oranges, melons, tomatoes and sea food, I get
mouth ulcers. Right now I have 2 ulcers in my mouth, which are
bothersome when eating or talking. Also I have a slight headache
and my eyes are bothering me. My eyes seem very tight. I wondering
if there is any connection. Right now I have no alternative then
to try Lysine. Will keep you posted. From Montreal, Canada
Hi Everyone i have read all the meessages here and i tell
you first thing in the morning i will got out and buy everything
and give it a go.
After years of fighting these things on my own (i thought)
i found a website that has really helped. im going to go and buy
all the products mentioned here and have a mouth healing, week
i guess (well i'll try). i have noticed that the ulcers appeaer
whenever i eat nuts and tomatos definatly, but can also be bought
on buy anything from chocolate to fruit. i usually get them on
my tounge,gums and side of cheeks. at the moment i have 5, all
vary in size but all VERY PAINFUL!. i have notice they also occur
at any time when i wear my retainer, this does not help as i have
to wear this at night as well as use adcortyl in orabase for the
rest, i am sure you can imagine the effects. anyway after trying
any of these products hopefully i will find something suitable
Okay, wow what a reading. I've been suffering for 40 years
and have just started the l-lysine stuff myself. Not sure if it
works or not, hasn't been enough time.
I'm another sufferer of these torturous things! I've had
them for several years, but God the 6 I have now made me find
this site in the hope of somebody knowing a cure.
The last thing on earth I think anyone should do is use
any form of steroid treatment. Doctors are researching the effectsof
steroids on the human body and while it is accepted that they
can infact save lives.. the side effects can be very dramatically
bad over the years and infact it has been discovered that even
in SKIN CREAMS you can buy over the counter, its beeen recorded
by those people doing the research, that applcation of even skin
creams do cause thinning of the skin. I have has Asthma all my
life though now I dont eat much dairy it has enabled me to come
off my steroid puffer. I have no need of it, though I do keep
one incase I get a severe cold. I had cause to consult a skin
specialist a few years back and what do u think he said_.. Yep..
he said my skin was thin due to the steriods. Inhaled steroids
are NOT supposed to have any damaging effect so WHY would my skin
become thin_ I even washed my mouth as instructed after every
use. I believe the steroids have damaged my stomach lining and
my mouth lining and also my gut in fact I would go as far as to
say it has damaged anythin 'mucose' in my body. You will get a
quick fix using steroid therapy and do long term damage. As far
as my mouth ulcers are concerned I believe this has a big part
to play in the 'why' I get them.....
Please exscuse bad spelling and typing .. its late and I
am rather tired and my keyboard has for some reason chnaged languages
For years now, I swear by 'Bocasan'(a powder-in-warm-water
mouthwash from Oral-B Laboratories). I reckon three washes in
24 hours (esp. last thing before I go to bed) will abate the pain
and evict the offending little blighter.I always take them on
holiday with me ... just in case. However, today I went to the
chemist to buy some replacements and would you believe it, the
product appears to be no longer available. Lysine it is then !!
I never used to have mouth ulcers unless I ate chocolate.
Then I would get a couple of really painful ones appear a few
days later, and last for about a month. SO, I just stopped eating
chocolate, and I never had one again... until about 6 months ago,
when I started getting them even though I wasn't eating the chocolate.
I tried Lysine, and it seemed to help to start with, but after
a few weeks it had no more effect, and they came back. Then I
tried drinking loads of water, and that seemed to work for a while,
then it had no effect, and they came back. I read somewhere that
the body uses a lot of water to break down fatty foods, which
might go along with my chocolate and water thing, and so my current
theory is to cut back on the fatty foods. I'll let you know how
Have had ulcers for as long as I can remember. The pain is
unbearable. Makes me want to sleep for a week. A couple of days
ago, a small one appeared on my lip. The next day, I had them
all around my entire lips. Just found out yesterday that I am
anemic. Was wondering if there might be a connection. Has anyone
else had iron deficiency?
just ordered my lysine now so hears hoping!! one thing i
have noticed which is common with all of us ulcers sufferers is
that we will try ANYTHING!! if someone told me to balance on my
head at full moon , whilst gargling with washing powder i might
try it! it says something about how painful these bastards are
and how much they impact on our lives! good luck guys and hang
I consider myself as an experienced sufferer and I currently
have 8 which have been hanging around for about three weeks now.
I am going to buy some Lysine straight away. I have tried many
different products and none of them have been particularly effective
- although last year I went to the doctors and he prescribed a
product called Pyralvex which is an extract of rubbarb. This worked
superbly with instant relief and they cleared up within days,
but I may have over used it and built up a certain amount ofimmunity
to it (although I still use it). Give it a go, it's available
over the counter and costs just £2.49.
L-Lysine is the way to go. 1000 MG 3x a day at first, back
to 1000 MG a day preventative, in my opinion. Thanks for cool
site. Take care.
I agree ----Lysine is the only thing that seems to help.
I've had mouth ulcers since I was very young.(now 36) They hurt
and last for days...one starts to go away, and another one forms.
They make me feel terrible. Mornings and Evenings are the worsts
times. I've tried about every product there is. Nothing seems
to prevent and the pain med. only lasts momentarily. I wish someone
would find out how and why these things form....and then let us
know how to prevent them.
How do you take the lysine tablets? Do you chew them in
your mouth the swallow them? or swallow them whole? They taste
absolutely revolvting when I chew them, I really felt sick. So
I crushed up 3 andmixed in it some milk and drank that. is that
Distressing to know that so many suffer from these antogonizing
b*****ds. Does anyone else notice the reularity of the outbreak,
I normally get a large coldsore on my chin between last week of
March and first two weeks of April and later in the year bewteen
August 31st and first two weeks of September. If it does not happen
then then its very rare that I get them at any other time. They
are nearly always accompanied by mouth ulcers and sometimes do
not get the cold sore just a mass of mouth ulcers on lips and
tongue. As currently suffering off to try the Lysine solution
as nothing else seems to work. Great website, thanks keep iy going
lets try and eliminate the little blighters
Oh my gosh Gary....I also have had this type of problem.
I get 3 or 4 coldsores on my mouth every fall and every spring,
with a few in between. Usually they start out small sores in the
mouth, then I know the big ones are coming. Now I take a daily
dose of Valtex (that lovely herpies medicine) and that seems to
be helping the coldsores, but not the small, but painful, mouth
sores. I've only been on the Valtrex since May so I'm hoping (and
praying) to make it through Sept/Oct without the big daddies on
the lips! I'm thinking with all the allergies I've had over the
years, they are very much related. I used to get allergy injections
every week as a child, and the spring and fall were always my
worst. I can tell you I tried Lysine and it did NOTHING!! Go to
your doc and get a prescription of 500mg daily. They are extremely
expensive if you don't have insurance to cover the costs. They
will help the sores on the outside of your mouth and on your face,
but not too much on the mouth ulcers. My family doctor wouldn't
prescribe a daily dose, only when I had the outbreak. I'm now
seeing a specialist and he was all for the daily preventative!
Walk...no run....to your doctor and get a prescription and save
yourself that embarrassment of having these things all over your
face! I know how you must feel about them! Best of luck my friend.
Hmmmm... interesting thing about this Lysine. I'll be checking
into that. Otherwise, I have found that a new toothpaste (here
in the USA) is Aquafresh Extreme Clean. It kind of tastes like
cough drops, but it seems to lessen the severity of ulcers when
I have them and I don't seem to be having them quite as often
either. Of course, as I'm writing this, I'm battling it out with
a 10-day old invader now (and it's not excrutiating pain all day
like they usually can be), but it's better than having 3 or 4
at a time like usual! I'd appreciate also any feedback if the
Lysine has any adverse effects for anyone. Thanks.
Back again. I have used Frador on mine which can be ordered/purchased
in most pharmacies in the UK. If you can handle (they call it
transient smarting) the eye-watering pain when you rub the fluid
in I have managed to eliminate 50% of mine with one or two on
the tongue and one whopper on the upper lip left to go. Good luck
to you all
I heard about Lysine about 8 years ago as the "miracle
cure" for mouth ulcers. At the time it was. Taking Lysine
cured my ulcers for about 2 years. I suspect it was some sort
of a placebo effect though. I now suffer from mouth ulcers again
(and have for the past 6 years) and no amount of Lysine helps
or prevents them (even though I keep taking it in vain). I even
tried stopping the Lysine for a year (to clear it out of my system?)
and started it back up again. It is no good. The inside of my
mouth feels like a bomb went off inside. Now, I am looking for
the next miracle cure that will give me another couple years of
I've been down the road with the Lysine thing and I can tell
everyone it does not work! I've been taking Valtrex for my coldsores
and now I have noticed that it's keeping the mouthsores to the
very small stages. They seem to not really break open and are
gone in a couple of days. They can get painful on the tongue area,
but they are not lasting. Valtrex is a herpies medicine ~ but
honestly I think that's what we all have with our sores. Don't
panic though, there are several types of herpies. I know Valtrex
is extremely expensive and if you don't have insurance be prepared
to pay. It is a God send to me though!
i,ve had private treatment for mouth ulcers, with lots of
tests & swabs done. the one swab that brought out a mouth
ulcer in my mouth very quickly was salted nuts[peanuts, cashew,etc].
the doctor thinks[not knows] its to do with the oils in the nut.since
giving up eating nuts[just over 8 months now] i have been free
of any mouth ulcers. to all fellow sufferers check your diets
see if they contain nuts in any form. hope it works for you all
I haven't left a message here for several weeks, because
for the first time in years, I have been free of mouth ulcers
- then I realised this is the very time I should be logging on.
I have tried just about every remedy which has been suggested,
apart from steroids. and the only thing which helped in the slightest
was Kenalog Orabase. I HATED the feel of it in my mouth, but it
did seem to help. Like many others, my ulcers seem to be caused
by dental problems - partly from very badly shaped teeth, which
I keep catching my tongue on (bugs bunny has nothing on me!) and
partly that every time I have any dental treatment, even just
a scale and polish, my mouth erupts like a volcano. Several weeks
ago, I had blood tests done and was told I had mild anaemia and
the doctor suggested a two month course of iron. I honestly didn't
think it would make one blind bit of difference, and indeed the
first two weeks showed no improvement. However I persevered and
am delighted to report that it's about six weeks since I had the
faintest hint of an ulcer. This is a LONG time for me. I know
it won't help everyone - nothing seems to, but it's worth a try.
Good luck to all of you.
I have suffered from mouth ulcers since as long as i can
remember and the pain sometimes gets me down so much. I have an
absolute b*****d at the moment, my whole cheek aches and cant
even bare to touch my face! I think they are worse for me at the
moment as my wisdom teeth are coming through. Has anyone else
Sorry to see so many have this too!! I now know I'm not the
only one though. I'm going to find some Lysine tomorrow since
it has gotten excellent reviews here!! I only get these when I
eat chocolate and BOY did I do a doozy this time!! I knew this
was gonna happen but I just had to eat that cup cake anyway! Never
again, at this point I would be glad if they took chocolate off
the market LOL
I just posted but wanted to post again, I just found this
site (I was looking thru the treatment survey) and saw that the
Enamel saver toothpaste had the highest rating for preventing
canker sores. I dont know if it works or not, I'll probably be
trying it soon just to see (Will do ANYTHING!!) SO i'll let everyone
know but I wanted to post the site I found it the cheapest (So
far, only look thru 2 sites and 1 site was considerably cheaper)
I have not been canker free for almost 6 years. It has been
Hell living with a mouth full of canker sores every day for 6
years. I have tried taking Calcium Lactate, that works for a while
but then your system gets use to it and they end up coming back.
I have used every herbal remedy on the market also experimental
drugs. Nothing seems to work. About Lysine, it did nothing for
me unfortunately. It didn't seem to make any difference at all.
I just ordered the Rembrandt toothpaste for canker sore sufferers.
Has any one out there tryed this product? It is suppose to lessen
the outbreaks by 80%. I ordered it from Dentist.net
Boy, I don't feel so bad after reading that some of you poor
souls get more than 3 at a time! I have 1 dime sized one in the
back of my mouth, right at the bend of my throat and 2 little
ones on my tounge. I feel like I am dying! I keep checking my
temperature....I feel like I have a fever, and a BAD flu! I've
had these things for years! Seems to me they are brought on by
pms (premenstrual syndrome for all you guys out there), stress,
poor diet, and of course if I jab my mouth with my toothbrush
I get a visitor a few days later. My dentist recommends Zilactin.
The red and beige container. You put it on after you dry the area
with a tissue or qtip. It hurts like hell, I mean you feel like
you're going to pass out. My husband says I actually loose color
in my face! But then, you allow it to dry and sop up all the saliva
that follows, and then, poof! It forms a bandage over the sore
and you can eat a bit and talk! It's hard to put the stuff on
by yourself especially if you have one in your throat like lucky
me! But, gagging and all, I shove a qtip down there and search
around until I find it.
Sorry, but Lysine doesn't make any difference at all with
Thank you for the Internet. Thank you for this web site.
Wow, what a wealth of knowlege. I was searching for something
just like this site. Took a while to find it-- I'm surprised so
many other people have found it. The amount of people with these
ulcers must be huge, since the ones that found this site are likely
a very small percentage.
I use Euthymol toothpaste (UK). I ran out a week ago an started
using a normal floride toothpaste and the bloody ulcers are back.
Euthymol is the only thing I've tried that
ok went out m bought some lysine, how do you suggest on taking
I AM SUFFERING FROM AN ULCER AT THE MINUTE AND FIND IF I
HIT MY FINGERNAIL WITH A HAMMER I CAN FORGET ABOUT THE ULCER BUT
IT ONLY WORKS SHORT TERM
I just found this web site today. Have had mouth ulcers for
years but as every body eles has done i have went and bought Lysine,
hope it works. I will keep you updated
Reply to Dave..UK Been taking 500mg LYSINE morning and night
for over 4 months now ..not one single little bugger has dared
appear in my mouth..HOORAY!! I crush up those HUGE tablets and
fill up the gelatine capsules size oo the biggest ones that you
can buy..from health food stores in Australia..or you can just
break the tablets into 4 pieces you will find by trial and error
how many tabs you need to take everyones different..If I feel
that tingly feeling that tells you that an ulcer is coming..then
I just take one extra tablet per day for a couple of days and
nothing erupts!! LYSINE is a building block of life it appears
naturally in the body and is washed out normally in your wastes
every day so you can't overdose on it but if you take the right
amount it will save you money. Good luck
I've had mouth ulcers for years. Started taking L-Lysine
3 months ag and had a couple of small ones first few weeks but
NOTHING since!Fellow suffers, "JUST DO IT!"
Olive Leaf Extract
Our entire family gets canker sores. My mother always had
us use powdered alum on them. You can buy this in the spices at
the grocery store. They also have the grandular powdered alum,
too. It does hurt at first, I won't kid ya, but it seems to 'eat'
up the problem overnight. Hey! It's worth a try!
Thanx so much to you guys with all the treatments, I currently
have 4 incredibly large and painful ulcers, which make it hard
to eat (especially tomatoes), drink or talk. Bonjela is a joke,
it only makes it hurt more and does nothing, im ready to try anything
you guys have suggested. Once again, Thankx
At the moment I have four ulcers on my tongue and two on
my inside lip, I can hardly talk and eating is painful, I have
read so many people take lysine. Is it safe to take over a long
period of time? I have tried bonjela which is just torture and
adcortyl which has not helped at all. I have just been on holiday
for two weeks and think that the ulcers may be linked to too much
alcohol and salty foods. Thank you so much for all the tips I
feel some hope of getting rid of these ulcers.
Rembrandt Toothpaste hasn't worked for me. I to have suffered
from mouth ulcers for many years. Most of the time I am just in
a bad mood and ask everyone not to talk to me. I just went out
and bought some Lysine, just took 3000 mgs. So we'll see. I have
been using Rembrandt Toothpaste for about 2 years, doesn't work.
I don't know why I still buy it. Thanks for this site. I thought
I was the only person in the world suffering so much.
HI I HAVE THE BA....DS AT THE MOMENT IVE EVEN TRIED SLICING
THEM OFF WITH A BLADE PAINFUL BUT AS U KNOW UL TRY ANYTHING IM
GOING TO GIVE LYSINE A GO IT SOUNDS GOOD IL LET YOU KNOW THE VERDICT.I
FEEL YHIS SITE HAS HELPED ME 'THANKS'.
Slicing?!!!!! Oh my God! Do be careful...
slicing can't be the answer, if you slice it off there will
be an even bigger one where you did the slicing. Please try something
I am on vacation this week,see if this makes a difference
considering my boss is a real A__hole!
Gail...wishing you much luck while on vacation. I'm taking
my 1000mg of Lysine everyday as well as my iron. The only problem
I'm having now is still the large one on my throat. It's very
hard and I'm thinking when I go back in Dec to the specialist
it will need to be removed. The Valtrex is working wonders on
my lips!! Knock on wood and thank God no cold sore since the beginning
of May!! I always get a mouthful in the fall too. The doc prescribed
Xanax (control released) and they are working great for my nerves
as well. Now, if the worse that I get is a few little bumps (which
can be a bit sore) and no new huge "puppies" in my mouth
my prayers would be answered! AS far as my son-in-law in Iraq,
three more from his platoon were injured last week. We got a message
through the point of contact person that he's okay! Again....praises
to God! Here's hoping everyone is doing better!
Has anyone ever tried Acidophilus for canker sores? I was
in the fourth day of the worst case of sores I have ever had.
My Aunt told me about Acidophilus, it comes in liquid form or
pills. I got the liguid and took 2 tablespoons every 3 hours for
the first day. By the next morning I could tell they didn't hurt
as much. I hadn't eaten anything and barely drank anything for
four days. I got to eat a little bit today. I would certainly
say this Acidophilus helped a great deal. You can get it at any
herb or health store. It is not at any drugstores. I got mine
at a Health Hut. Not very expensive, about $12.00 for a 16 oz.
bottle, comes in strawberry flavor too. Try it, it can't hurt.
I HAVE ULCERS IN MY THROAT AND ON MY TOUNGE FOR 2-3 YEARS
RECENTLY HAD A BIOPHSAY DONE NO BIG C USED TO SMOKE NOW DONT,NOT
IN ANY PAIN FEELS SLIGHTLY SORE AND THE ULCERS ON MY TOUNGE LOOK
TERRIBLE IAM GOING TO TRY LYSINE WILL LET YOU KNOW IF IT WORKS
I am not sure if you get LYSINE in India.. are there are
natural remedies in terms of special fruits vegetables etc
why about purchasing it on line? L-lysine
Wow, this is great, im looking for a cure for my mother who
has suffered with them all her 50 years. I think ive found by
reading all these posts, so i will go and buy her some lysine
I'm back again! I have had ulcers since I was about 5, and
am now 35, so it's a long term thing. Anyway, I have been on L
lysine for about the last 2 years, and it definitely does make
a difference - doesn't take them completely away, but it helps.
A few months ago, it seemed that my body was becoming "imune"
to it, and I was getting them again. I tried different toothpaste
(again) but specifically looked for one WITHOUT SLS (Sodium Laurel
Sulfate) - the only ones I could find were Rembrandt for Canker
Sore Sufferers (which I haven't tried yet), and Biotene (which
is a toothpaste for Dry Mouth Sufferers, but it doesn't have SLS).
SLS is the foaming agent in almost every toothpaste, and it definitely
does inflame and aggrevate the ulcers - I don't know that it "causes"
them, but if there is any small abrasion there, it seems to turn
it into a huge one. Anyway, after only a few weeks with the Biotene,
my ulcers were gone - it was the only time in my life, other than
when I was pregnant that I had none for about 3 months! I have
since gotten 1 or 2, but nowhere near the intensity or size or
frequency. So, my suggestion is use L lysine, and find toothpaste
without SLS. One more note...it definitely seems linked to the
herpes virus (even though no Dr's will confirm - they seem ignorant
to most of this!)
Hello everyone. I have sufferred from mouth ulcers - always
several at a time- rare breaks in between - for years. I agree
with all of your sentiments about the pain and misery. Why isn't
there a real cure that works for all of us? I have found one cure
but after you have read this you may not wish to try it. Even
I have have given up and gone back to the ulcers!
it fuc**n kills me so much it makes my eyes water when i
put bonjela on the little sh*t why am i cursed with this devil
Hello! blimey, I can't believe that I'm not the only one
suffering from awful, hateful ulcers! I've had them all my life,
at school my best friend used to explain to the teachers for me
as I couldn't open my mouth. At the moment I have been drinking
lemsip (hardly touches) and peroxyl mouthwash (numbs slightly)
for the huge amount of great big fat ones all down one side of
my mouth. I'm sorry for everyone but perversely I'm so happy that
it's not only me! Thank you so much, I will try everything!
Orabase with Adcortyl definately works for me. Put a fair
dollop on at night and the ulcer is practically gone the next
morning. Have also tried Lycin and seemed to work but can't be
Hi there you poor people. I thought I was the only one, I've
got a mouth full of ulcers at the moment and my God they hurt
like nothing on this planet!, I've been to the Doc's and the dentist
but neither can help with a cure, the doc has given me a mouth
wash called bioplex which seems to wear them down after a week.
I'm a smoker and find that smoking does'nt help get rid of them
or keep them away. However my wife is getting concerned that they
could be linked to cancer, so I'm off back to the Doc's to get
a blood test, plus I intend to take down a few of your pain relief's
and try them out!, any thing to get rid of them.
Hi!I just realized that I'm not the only soul who suffers
so much. Since young I've been prone to having ulcers, any cuts
or lesions in the mouth will end up be big mouth ulcers. But it
had never been so bad until recent months. Few months back I had
an attack of hundreds of ulcers in my mouth. This time round,since
Sunday I started getting ulcers all over my mouth, now I have
at least 50 big and small, especially more on the left side of
my tongue. They're killing me. Been to doctor this morning, given
CRIXAN 250MG (ANTIBIOTICS), PREDNISOLONE 5MG and ORAL AID LOTION,
don't know whether they'll help but I've started taking them.
I don't know whether I can get Lysine in Singapore, I will try
to find out. Anyone out there have any suggestions?
Caroline, I think it is the nicotine, try chewing some nicotine
Thank God I found this Website. I thought that I was the
only one living with this. I seem to get sores when I am stressed
or when I bite or burn my mouth or even when I get an illness
like the flu or a cold. The sores have continued since childhood
and have only worsened as an adult. Lidocaine temporarily numbs
the pain. I used Lysene 25 years ago as a child without much success,
but am willing to try it again. The doctor just recently put me
on Valtrex. Waiting to see if it works.Keep up the advise...please.
Good luck on the Valtrex. It sure helps with coldsores. I've
been dealing with both ulcers and especially coldsore for 20 years
and I know how I feel. Lysine did NOTHING! I have one ulcer on
by throat that's like a bump that will have to be removed. It
has been there for 6 months! I have another appointment made with
my specialist. He's the one that put me on a 500mg daily does
of Valtrex. Best of luck to you!
Got a massive ulcer on the underside of my top lip, right
in the middle ....looks like I've been hit by Tyson! The pain
is immense, I've had today off work!. This site is brilliant...I'm
not alone and hopefully I've found some cures!. I'm off out now
to buy some Lysine! Thanks to everyone who's posted on these pages
As a child i suffered terribly with huge mouth ulcers until
i got past my teenage years, thankgod i don`t get them now. however
my 10yr old son gets them just as i did. Is Lysine safe for children?
great site these little bastards annoy the xxxx out of me
but after reading all these messages i think colin could be on
to something,for me anyway as i have always suspected that it
was red wine or nuts and he said he hasnt had an ulcer for 6 weeks
since cutting out peanuts and cashews believe it or not but i
just had a handfull of cashews an hour before i found this site
.im going to throw up !!
I KEEP GETTING ULCERS ON MY TOUNGE I GET THEM FOR WEEKS AT
A TIME THEN NO ULCERS FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS THEN THE BASTARDS COME
BACK FOR ANOUTHER FEW WEEKS THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON NOW FOR A COUPLE
OF YEARS . I HAVE YET TO FIND A CURE, BUT I USUALLY PUT SALT ON
THE AFFECTED AREA,IT STINGS LIKE HELL BUT IT SEEMS TO GET RID
OF THEM QUICKER.I AM GETTING SOME LYSINE ASAP.
Dear all. Thanks you all for your advice. My two favourate
people in the world suffer badly from ulcers and my heart goes
out to them (also means I cannot kiss my boyf a lot of the time,
cos he is in too much pain :0). I have read this whole string
and one thing I have seen repeatedly is that with some people
they get immune to a product after a while that has previously
worked fine. It seems that the body or the ulcers become immune
to the product... Surely that has go to be a lead worth the time
of any researchers that use this message board? I am also of the
opinion that the ulcers might be an outward sign of an inward
malady, but have no evidence to back this up...(any reasearchers
help here?). It really does seem that the body produces these
things as a result of a whole host of ailments not just one -
hence medical science's confoundment on the subject and the whole
range of products that work for people. I find that quiet sympathy
and a hug can relieve the immense frustration my boyf suffers
when he gets these things if not the pain. Goodluck to you all,
esp the multiple and large ulcer sufferers.
Also the Aerobic Oxygen sounded so good I wish for it to
really work [PAINFREE 23:12 , 21 June 03] on this string. Dom
seemed to think it was ok or was that sarcasm? Thanks
Hi Sass, ...er, sarcasm I'm afraid. Never tried it though,
but the style of the 'presentation' was pants.
I've been afflicted by them for years and so has my mother.
Brother ok, father ok, wife and children ok. We are always swapping
treatment suggestions. One treatment (which I don't think you
will be able to get anymore) was like something from the dark
ages called "tincture of myrrh and borax" - hurt like
hell and then I think the nerves gave in and gave you some respite.
In New Zealand we have available "Kenalog" a treatment
in dental paste best applied at night (over the counter medicine).
Also Difflam mouth gel is good. Unfortunately these things don't
stick and only way is first to dab the mucous off the ulcer -
horrible but necessary but dab it, don't wipe, its agony. As for
the cause? My dentist has often said its viral. I know stress
and run down feelings are associated with poor immune systems
etc and vice versa. One of the most important things is to try
and limit trauma in the mouth - mainly physical stuff like a jab
with the toothbrush or aggressive brushing. My dentist says always
use a soft brush, take it slowly and gently and if someone can
hear you brushing your teeth from the next room - then you are
brushing too hard. Sharp foods like cornflakes and cornchips must
be eaten slowly and chewed thoroughly! Biting my cheek is probably
the worst thing - apart from the immediate pain and blood is the
knowledge that an ulcer will develop. If you gargle with aspirin,
don't forget to spit it out. Adoctor suggested gargling daily
with warm salty water. Also suffer from sore throats. Once had
a throat so badly ulcerated I couldn't drink and was threatened
with hospital and intravenous drip - had a pain killing jab and
started drinking again! Balanced diet, adequate sleep, stress
management and minimising mouth trauma and having topical treatments
seems our best hopes. Luck all.
why should you spit the aspirin out?
A homeopathic doctor recommended applying a used tea bag
to the ulcer. Depending on where the ulcer is, this may be difficult!
However I have had some success with it. It is worth a try anyway.
Oh, better wait until the tea bag has cooled down a bit!
Thanks to the Message Board for the advice. I was beginning
to think that I'd caught something nasty from somewhere dodgy...
I'm off to get some Lysine
I wrote in on Oct. 10, I had a mouth full of ulcers. I read
about everyone trying Lysine and went out and bought some. I took
3000mgs the first two days after that I have taken 1000mgs every
day first thing in the morning. I don't know if I'm just having
good luck or if the Lysine is really working, but since about
Oct. 16th I have only had two very small ulcers in my mouth. They
didn't last very long either. I am still using SLS free toothpaste
but it never helped before. Now I have added Acidophilus PB8 to
the Lysine. I hope to get even better results with it. Thanks
for this site as far as I am concerned you guys cured me. I use
to have at least 5 to 6 ulcers at all times. I can't belive the
difference, I am very happy now. Thanks
I do not suffer from Ulcers very often. I've sudenly come
out in abundance of them all. They are all over my mouth. I've
recently given up smoking, increased my eating regularity, taken
Vitamin C supplements. I am fairly run down and don't sleep enough.
Really upset and surprised how I got this. Doctors pescribed Cordosyl
and Adcortyl. Got worse. Now I'm using Aciclovir 200mg (5 times
a day). Will be down to Holland and Barret to get some Lysine
in the morning.
I have heard this mouth ulcers since i was 13 years now 23
years that's 10 years of pain, I have used all sorts of medication
name it Kenalog, bonjela etc, used all sorts of mouth wash, hydrogen
peroxide, listerine, etc the list endless, this lysine is new
am going to look for it in the stores in Kenya hope it's available
in preparation for the next time they come again, BUT on hope
has kept me going to know that Jehovah, God promises in Isaih
33:24, that in the near future no one will say am sick, Yes even
with strange diseases like MOUTH ulcers.
I've been a sufferer of the f***ing things ever since I can
remember and have gone through numerous allergy tests. As a result
I am apparently allergic to Tomotoes, Strawberries and Beetroot
- something to do with the colouring or so I'm told. I haven't
eaten any of the above for at least 2 months but I am currently
suffering with 3 ulcers which are stopping me eating/drinking/talking
etc and this time round I'm finding myself extremely tired. Do
the doctors/specialist's out there actually know what their talking
about? As you guys like myself actually suffer from ulcers and
are not researching info from the same crap book my doctor and
dentist use - I would very much appreciate your help. Please name
some SLS free toothpastes available in the UK and let me know
if LYSINE is geniune does it actually work.
I would be careful with Lysine. High doses of Lysine can
suppress levels of another important amino acid (Arginine I think).
Arginine is important for lots of things like maintaining growth
hormone levels, so, I wouldn't take very large doses of lysine
all the time as a preventative. In fact, I think lysine works
against herpes because herpes needs arginine to replicate, and
lysine displaces it. It is probably fine as a short-term treatment
Wow! What a great site, wish I'd found it when I was younger
as I had them horrendously then, not had them for a few years
now - maybe its due to smoking!!! Anyway, my 7yr old son has them
badly at the moment and is desperately miserable, is Lysine suitable
for children and how much should they take? Our pharmacist is
rubbish, just says to use bonjela which doesnt work. I do remember
natural yoghurt really helped heal mine but its not working for
my son so maybe that was a coincidence. He also seems quite run-down
so perhaps there is a link between iron deficiency too, will try
that too and let you know! Thanks!!
Lysine supplementation works by tilting the balance between
Lysine and Arginine heavily in favor of Lysine. This amerliorates
herpes outbreaks because the herpes virus depends on the presence
of arginine for it's replication. Arginine: An amino acid, one
of the 20 amino acids that serve as the building blocks in protein.
Arginine is not an "essential" amino acid. It is not essential
to the diet, but can be made by the body from other substances.
However, it is usually considered essential to the diet for children
so they can grow normally. Lack of arginine in the diet impairs
growth and in adult males it decreases the sperm count. www.medterms.com.
Jo, I hope this answers your question about giving Lysine to your
son. I'm researching at this time if there is anything that children
can take. You may want to try the SLS free toothpaste for now.
Rembrandt for canker sore sufferers is a good one. A friend of
mine uses it and it works wonders for her. I don't know if it
is in the UK, I am in U.S.A. It is about $6.99 for a tube here.
I am so sorry for your son. I hope this helps. If I comes across
anything else I'll let you know.
The vodka may have helped as it is alcohol and kills bacteria
by nature. Exessive drinking of alchohol does not however.
lysine lowers sperm count?? yes! another good reason to take
it ;-) what next? can it earn me a living while i park my butt
on the sofa? talk about miracle cures.... =)
What a great web site! Well I've had cankers off and on since
I was a teenager, and I've just had a horrible outbreak of about
4. Well that's bad enough, but now it seems like all of the inside
of my mouth has a rash. All the vessels are enlarged and some
are very red, like there is blood under a thin layer. None of
this is painful (of course the cankers are) but it feels very
funny because the usual smooth surface is bumpy. Has anyone else
had this or know what it is???
Sorry to hear so many people share this ailment... but it's
good to know I'm not alone. I suffer from occasional outbreaks
which typically run their course in a few days. Kanka usually
works for me but this latest outbreak take the cake... a couple
on the edge of my tongue turn into a massive infestation on my
tongue! Feels like i burned the surface of my tongue. I gargled
salt water (ouch), turned to multivitamins, and sucked on zinc
tablets. The pain has diminished, but my mouth still feels like
it's been through a war. Just crushed a baby aspirin on my desk,
made a paste and spread it on my tongue. We'll see...
The reason L-Lysene works is because it promotes cell regenation.
3000 mg's a day is a good idea, it also works better with B6 because
the B6 helps it to break down into your system easier. The red
bumps in the mouth are called blood blisters. Usually people with
reccuring cankers also have TMJ, grind their teeth at night, or
do other things that injur the mouth. When you put great amounts
of pressure on the inside of your mouth it can basically bruise
the skin. The inside of the mouth bruise looks alot like a little
pocket of blood.
I have had 15 ulcers at once before. Most of them were next
to eachother along the cheek and gum line. They KILLED! Plus I
had to smile for a big show I was in. Does drinking a lot of water
and eating less food really work. For the next week I'm going
to stop drinking iced tea because the kind I drink is said to
have a lot of chemicals that may cause ulcers.
I agree with alot of what alot of you have said, I take the
L-Lysine, dentists and doctors haven't prescribed anything that
gives relief. I also have heard putting 'powdered alum' on the
ulcer helps with pain and healing. you can get it over the counter
but have to ask the pharmasist for it.
It seems pretty clear to me that the ulcer issue is autoimmune
at it's heart. The huge impact of stress on it, the wide variety
of very individual triggers and the ineffectiveness of most of
the remedies all point to this conclusion. It's also clear that
the predisposition to them can be inherited. Sadly, my 2 year
old daughter joined the club this week. It's unlikely there will
be any cure in our lifetime, the human immune system is so complex
that it will take a long time to truly get a handle on managing
it (if you think we're even close, look at the very slow progress
of the AIDS fight and that's a relatively simple foreign invader)
Hopefully the Hindus have it right and the karma we accumulate
from all this suffering will eventually pay off.
I had one 'cauterized' with a silver nitrate stick at the
Dr.'s, it turned it a silver/white color but I think it's helping
the pain alot! It didn't hurt as bad as I thought it would, no
worse than putting meds on it!
My opinion, based on personal experience is this: The trigger
would be something you ate or swallowed that irritated your taste
buds or a slight scrape as a potatoe chip scraping your tongue.
Something unnoticed normally. But if your body is dangerously
low in certain nutrients (vit. B and C it appears) the painful
ulcers invade quietly at first and then the next thing you know,your
whole mouth has been invaded.I am healing presently. The last
bout I had started on Thursday and by Friday morning even my teeth
hurt my tongue. I only went to the store an hour ago after seeing
no relief in site. I picked up Orajel with a film forming gel.
Instantly my mouth feels 80% better and I am going to make dinner
now. Oragel or other similar- containing the "film forming
gel" gets my vote
I,ve just been to the docs and he said i,ve got leuco something
or other and that it could be pre C I thought it was mouth ulcers
,i,ve had this sore thing in my mouth and on the side of my tongue
for yonks has anyone else heard of this or is it just another
name for mouth ulcer?
O.k. looks like I need to go shopping at lunch.. I have one
on my upper lip and two on my tongue that I can see, could be
more..I work as a server at night and I'm seriously considering
calling in sick because it really hurts when I talk.. Will pick
up some lysine at lunch and some orajel. anything to try and get
rid of this. I feel like I'm running a fever and just feel lousy..
hurts to even lick my lips.. my tongue is actually swollen.. thanks,,
good to be able to vent to people who know how I feel..
It's comforting to know that there are more of you out there
suffering from these bitches. I'll give the Lysine and go and
I get these ulcers sometimes but mainly on the inner bottom
lip - I also suffer from what the doctor called "Geographic
tongue" this is where my tongue gets sore patches all over
it and it kinda looks like a map of a weird country or something.
I found I only started suffering from the problem with ulcers
and sore tongue after I had chicken pox at 17. I also notice certain
foods can cause my tongue to become very sore like boiled sweets
and pineapple, and even large does of ketchup. Ive had these ulcers
on my tonsils in the past aswell but not lately - thank F@@@!
At the moment I have one nasty ulcer on the inner lip and it is
very painful - Just bought some Adcortyl in Orabase and some L
Lysine from a local health shop (500mg) Gonna give it all a go
- dont want to lower sperm count though so will only take for
a few days! Keep up the posts as its great to share these probs
with like minded sufferers. Cheers!
You know they spend billions on reasearch to on how people
wanna see a chocolate bar on the store shelf you think they could
spend one f***ing penny on trying to find out what the hell these
is genetics a factor into getting canker sores???
I read somewhere Acidophilus works, but don't think they
worked for me. Trying the lysine now. Has anyone tried the stuff
they sell on http://www.canker-rid.com/??? I wish it would just
THANK YOU THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR ADVICE!!!!!!
I have been plagued with ulcers for as long as i can remember-
at least 2/3 every other week. Read this website about L-Lysine
and decided to try it (Currently in Holland & BArrett's at
£3 for 100 tablets) for first couple of weeks was taking
2 tablets each day, ulcers came and went, but after about 3 weeks
they went completely and i only ever take a table perhaps one
every other week maximum. Me and my sister are now ulcer free
and are loving it! Thank you ever so much and i do heavily recommend
it!!!. I was concerned about the amount i was taking at first
but now i rarely have to take them so there's no apparent need
to worry about any potential side effects!
Been having them for 11yrs now......tried vitamins, penicillin
- tablets and injections, nothing has worked.....am now trying
an oral suspension called Nystatin...doesn't seem to work either.......guess
I should try the L-lysine and i hop i'll find it......can't stand
the pain anymore.....can't eat...can't laugh..even talking is
such a bother.
Read my story under the title Valtrex. I've been through
all of this...you know, been there, done that! Try it!! It's a
medication used to control herpies and my doctor gave it to me
to take as a supressant! It's been the greatest!
Have recently found this site and its great, but can someone
tell me what's the difference between Ulcers and Cankers if any?
Apart from ulcers I get these little hard spots mainly on the
botton of my mouth under the tongue that are not painful like
the ulcers are these Cancers? I'm off to buy L-lysine today -
I had canker sores/mouth ulcers all my life (now 62) and
found 4 years ago that eliminating all forms of gluten from my
diet also reduced the incidence of sores to almost zero. I am
currently suspicious of coffee, too, which is a real "downer"
because I love coffee. Gluten is in wheat, barley, rye and oats
(maybe). The elimination diet means no bread, pasta, scones, biscuits,
cookies, cakes, and no beer. It is tough, but well worth if it
works for you. The key phrase is "gluten intolerance"
which may also be "Celiac Disease".
suffering from ulcers for years..awhile back there was a
tablet called oralcer..it was green and it seemed to work a treat,they
changed the colour to white and then they stopped selling it completly..tried
everything else since to little avail although carboscan is a
little better at helping,if you can stand the vile taste.vitamin
c also helps ward them off
never heard of them Ger, dont know if we get them over in
england... worth a look tho
a bit of gin and fresh orange with crushed ice relieves the
pain for a couple of hours but i think that's the only thing it
cures. if you like gin then i think it's worth a try. fresh orange
is a great source of vitamin c and i really recommend this delightful
At the moment, i can count nearly 20 ulcers in the back of
my throat, very painful! i used to get them every week, usually
only 1 or 2, but i havent had them for ages, i usually take vitamin
b and vitamin c tablets every day, but i didnt in the last three
days, i think the cause must be a lack of vitamins, anyway im
off to get me some lysine.
It doesn't cure them, but Lidocaine really does numb your
mouth. It's a great relief if you can get the prescription for
it. Careful though. My dentist warned me about the danger of choking
from eating after over-numbing your throat. Just try to keep it
off your throat when you swish with it, and you should be fine
(unless that's where the ulcers are of course).
this is what works for me. At night just as you are off to
sleep, SM33 straight on the ulcer (be warned it hurts) - then
when it no longer hurts, cover ulcer with Kenalog. In the morning,
the ulcer has gone. :)
Hi guys! I don't wanna be morbid, but it makes me feel a
little better to know that I'm not alone in this horrible suffering.
I'm not as bad as some of you poor souls and rarely get more than
one at a time. But right now I've got an evil bugger on the right
side of my tongue, at the back, that's in direct contact at all
times with the sharp inner edge of my rear molar. It's an ungodly
torment that nobody I know can understand. You guys have been
real helpful with advice. I'm going to find and purchase some
lysine, start bathing the demon in a stiff saline, and, just to
be safe, drive over my SLS toothpaste with my car. I typically
have no recourse to the pain beyond maximum strength Anbesol.
But after the first few doses it seems to impart a dull throb
that permeates the teeth and soft tissue around the ulcer as well.
I think I'm in danger of jabberin on, now. Thanks a lot everyone
and I wish you all the best in the face of this terrible pain!
hey devan, we know how you feel! i'm just recovering from
a desperately destructive one on my gum and two monsters on my
tongue. the worst one is on my lip- 12 mm's and growing! when
i was 8, with equally horrendous sores, i heard about lysine and
popped them pills like there was no tomorrow. it didn't work...
and then i got braces. if your molar is what is messing you up-
try some Braces wax, it won't work for long, but any relief is
worth it. may the force be with you!
Well folks, i was a bone fide mouth ulcer virgin untill 4
days ago and now i can really appreciate what it is all you poor
souls must go through. I've entered a rather depressed state and
am currently considering taking a knife to my tongue and either
a)slice the little bastards off or b)slice my tongue off. This
may seem rather drastic but i'm afraid i've never experienced
so much pain in my life. There MUST be a majic cure out there
somewhere; a Kryptonite that we can use against these evil creatures
that clearly do not belong on this otherwise wonderful planet
I've had mouth ulcers from the age of six. I had my tonsils
taken out in hospital around that time and have always been convinced
that I picked up a virus of some kind. Anyone else have a similar
Can anyone recommend anything for children over 10? Can they
i have had mouth ulcer's ever since i was little and they
keep getting worse now i have 4 of them that r realy big can u
recommend anything i am ten years old
I have suffered with mouth ulcers since I was 12 and I'm
now 28. The only thing that I have found to help are the following:
Brushing with a soft bristled tooth brush and flossing 3x a day
using Squigle enamel saver toothpaste (no SLS in it). Its really
helped in reducing the amount and frequency of the ulcers. Ora-5
to use on the ulcer to reduce the severity and length of time
that you have the ulcer. Ulcer ease, an anesthetic mouth rinse,
for when their really painful and you need to talk normally, eat,
or when the pain is too much. These items have been invaluable.
I get them on the internet. I am so suprised at how many people
have these ulcers and equally suprised as to how little doctors
know about this affliction and what its cause is. It can make
life a living hell...... I'm always on a quest for info on how
to get rid of these. I tried L-lysine and it did not work for
me. Hope this helps.
For some interesting reading on the connection between mouth
ulcers/canker sores and eating bread, etc., go to this site <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/CGI/wa.exe?S1=celiac&D=0&H=0&O=T&T=1>
and type "canker sores" or "mouth ulcers" in the
search box and be amazed.
anyone noticed a connection with heart problems and mouth
ulcers? also tomato sauce. and ...high blood pressure?
I don't know of a direct relationship between them and heart
problems but there can be a severe reaction to some heart related
medication. Two family members of mine found that the wrong mix
of beta-blockers and statins caused terrible ulcer attacks.
I personally havne't noticed a link with heart problems etc.
but I have read that you can get them from heart medications.
I have been getting ulcers since I can remember and just recently
they have taken a turn for the worse. I used to get one or two
every two or three months. However, for the past 6 months I have
had ulcers constantly. Usually 3-5 that last for about 2 weeks
and as soon as they start to go, a few more beauties start to
appear. It's really starting to get me down. My dentist has referred
me to a specialist but I don't hold out much hope of them being
able to get to the root of the problem. Have been taking Lysine
but have just realised that I'm probably not taking enough - have
been taking 500mg. Am going to step it up to 1000 a day. I also
use adcortyl in orabase but find this difficult to use during
the day. Anyone else suffering from a similar thing?
I truely think this is an auto immune thing because when
I was pregnant, through the whole thing, I did not get one ulcer.
But before and 1 week following delivery I got them bad and still
have them. I've read because the body sees the new fetus as a
foriegn body, your immune system is lowered so that your body
doesnt attack it. So this makes sense why the whole time I was
ulcer free. It makes me want to get pregnant again!! Nine months
of freedom! My primary care doc agrees that it is believed to
be autoimmune but has no suggestions on what to do except to gargle
with salt water....whoopee. I have five right now and they're
I have never posted here before but have been a frequent
reader of your comments. Like most of you I have had canker sores
or ulcers for most of my life. (I am a 38 year old male) About
four years ago they began to get worse. At one point I had them
continuously for over a year. I have spent at least a couple of
thousand dollars over the years on prescriptions from the doctor/dentist
and every home remedy/natural remedy imagineable with limited
success. Anti Viral pills from the doctor in particular had absolutely
no effect whatsoever. Several things seem to help but none are
a cure. Lysine seems to lessen the intensity of the ulcers. Very
good oral hygiene also seems to limit them. I use biotene toothpaste
and mouthwash. (Rembrandt Canker toothpaste seems to work equally
well) Brushing three times a day and rinsing with a non alcohol
mouthwash definetely helps. Keeping the mouthwash in your mouth
for at least a minute and better still two minutes seems to help
even more. Proper rest and nutrition also helps. One new product
I have began using over the last two weeks is Biotene Oral Balance.
It is a mouth moisturizing gel that seems to help. (No I don't
work for Biotene but they should put me on the payroll for the
amount of product I have purchased from them over the last year
or two) One theory which I am currently exploring is that people
who are "mouth breathers" have more canker sores than
those who are not. Mouth Breathers meaning you always breath through
your mouth when sleeping therby drying out the oral tissues. From
what I have been able to find out people with sinus problems (like
me) seem to always breath through the mouth when sleeping. This
theory seems to hold true because I always wake up with my mouth
dry. Another theory I am trying out is the Deglycyrrhizinated
Licorice. I have tried this before in capsule form with no success
but I just read an article which says that the capsule form will
not work. It must be the chewable or gum form. I am trying the
gum form (tastes bad though) made by Solaray and can be found
at the Whole Foods markets. (This is a chain of organic grocery
stores in the U.S.A.) Anyway I hope some of this info helps some
of you. I can truly say "I feel your pain".
This things are driving me banana's. they had gone on 'Vacation'
the whole of January that's the last time i tried looking for
lysine. can anybody tell me if lysine can be found in KENYA...anywhere...before
i die the pain is irritating it makes me feel like kicking everything
around me, thanks for my being able to exercise self control.
Hey Scott, I too am a mouth breather! My nose was broken
as a child, plus I have horrible allergies! Maybe your on to something!
Hello all, I have, just like so many other just found this
website in desperation for a cure, my doctor has been usless and
just told me to get on with them! even though I have been back
twice. I've tried everything apart for lysine which I am off to
try and get from the website any ideas where please ? I have about
30 mouth ulcers at the moment and they are rapidly increasing
each day over the past month, 4 days ago my whole mouth has swollen
up which has never happened to me before, anybody suffering the
same can they help me with ideas to help PLEASE ! I have suffered
since a child and even has a biopsy taken having one cut out as
they thought it might be cancer linked but nothing. I get the
large apsus mouth ulcers too which hurt like hell ! I can't continue
like this I can't talk or eat or even smile, and feel so bad for
you all too, at least you know what the suffering is like. Ohhhhhhh
I fell better just telling you all that LOL .
Awful arent they?? I am one of the lucky ones I seem to have
got past the worst of them. i suffered for about 15 years before
I found this site and started trying the things people suggested,
First I got some SLS free toothpaste which helped for a while.
The mouth ulcers found a way around that though... so I started
taking Lysine @ 1000mg a day (my doctor said that there were no
links to cholesterol increase). So far (after 6 months) things
are great... I still get a mouth ulcer every now and then, but
they are weeks apart and singular (not in their dozens like before).
When I do get one the usual over the counter stuff from chemists
works and I stay free of them for a few more weeks. I still use
Lysine every day and use SLS free toothpaste too to be on the
safe side. I would like to say thanks to all the wonderful people
who post on this site and of course to the site author as well!
Just found this site. I've had mouth ulcers for years and
doctors and dentists have been no help. Kenalog is good but it
doesn't prevent - only help with the pain. I've tried Lysine before
- but maybe not strong enough. I'm off to try again. I don't usually
have more than two at a time, but there is never more than a few
days break between them. Surely I can't be that stressed! I don't
I've been getting ulcers for the last 5 years, recently getting
worse. My doctor says it's due to 'smoking', can anyone relate
to that? please let me know. I've tried bongela, Anbesol and salts,
yet to try Lysine and Orabase. It's so embarrasing, as I went
for a job interview the other day, couldn't talk properly, sounded
like I had speach problems or a lispe as I have 2 either side
of my tongue, 2 on the tongue, 4 scattered on the inner lip and
3 on the cheecks and still counting....
I agree that "stress" is way over-stressed (!) by
dentists and doctors when they respond to a question about mouth
ulcers/canker sores. I think it is a bit of a cop-out that throws
the problem back into the patient's lap. On smoking, it is odd,
but many smokers find that when they try to quit smoking they
get bad outbreaks of sores that they never had before. There is
even some thought that nicotine might prevent sores. If I had
as many sores as poor Shelly, I'd be trying everything, starting
with a careful food-elimination campaign to learn if anything
in my diet was causing the sores. I'd start with the most likely
cause, gluten, and cut out every last thing in my diet that might
include gluten. Meanwhile, I'd be brushing my teeth carefully
and thoroughly after every meal and before retiring to bed. I'd
go to a dentist and have a good cleaning of my teeth. For the
sores already there, I'd be getting some antibacterial mouthwash
like Corsodyl and something to help healing like Gengigel and
work hard to do what I could to stop the sores. If all that doesn't
help, I'd torment my G.P. with questions about what is at the
root of all the sores that won't stop coming, and if that G.P.
is no help, ask around and find one that will exert his grey-matter
Switching from mouth breathing to nose breathing, 24 hours
a day, can really improve your health (Scott mentioned this).
At night either tuck your head down to your chin or use micropore
tape to keep your mouth closed. Nose breathing helps with dental
health and allergies, and is used in the Buteyko technique. And
it is free!
heh, what about us beardies? taping my mouth shut might be
a good idea (for more than 1 reason!) but christ, it'll kill when
the tape comes off... =D
Does anyone get them on their throat? I have two big ulcers
on the side of my tongue, which like Shelly, leaves me unable
to talk properly. Its so embarrassing. Now I have one on the back
of my throat!!!