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Just got back from my dentist after getting a Debacterol treatment - my ulcers are fully cauterized and I have no pain at all! I had requested him to order it and they shipped it overnight - no hassles getting it. I will tell you, though, it was VERY painful when he applied it. I had two large ulcers on my lips and a tiny one forming right next to one of the large ones. It was like a white-hot poker being held in the ulcer for 15 seconds, but in retrospect it was worth it. My dentist is confident that applying some anesthetic will not hinder the effectiveness of Debacterol, so next time he will do so to make it less painful (I was his first patient to try this, so we had to do it without any - argh!). If it takes a long time for your ulcers to heal and you are sick of it, then you should try this method. It will probably still hurt alot, but the end result is well worth it...
Regards, Bob Cool |
| BobCool 10 December 02 |
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| This site includes an interview with Reg Dupre, CEO of the company that makes Debacterol, who claims that this is ”the” wonder cure for canker sores. However, this site’s own survey of the effects of different canker sore treatments shows that 60% of all responses on Debacterol classify this form of treatment as ”rubbish”. Does anyone have more information or experiences to share on the usefulness of Debacterol? |
| Monti 19 June 03 |
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| Does your dentist do the treatment or can you do it at home? |
| Judi 24 June 03 |
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| I tried Debacterol and concur with BobCool. Very painful upon application (application needs to be made carefully and thoroughly - not always easy in your mouth). Once the pain was gone though, there was no more pain from the ulcer. Not sure I’d use it on all ulcers, but certainly for the really really painful ones. Don’t know how available it is outside the US though. |
| Dom Walton 6 August 03 |
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| As Dom knows, I also have tried Debacterol and found that it actually didn’t work what so ever for me - it was extremely painful to apply and although it felt at first like you’d bitten the area in the mouth where the ulcer you treated was, there was a numb type feeling, but this soon wore off and the following day, I was still getting the same pain as before. I made absolutely sure I applied it exactly as you should do..(which for this product is very important)... Still, glad it works for some... |
| Paul 6 August 03 |
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| Interestingly the second time I used it was on an ulcer on my tongue, completely numbed it as before, but about a day and a half later the pain started coming back, until it was just as bad as it was to start with - whether this is because it was on my tongue, or because I was very short of sleep I don’t know. |
| Dom Walton 20 August 03 |
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| probably both dom |
| cc 24 March 04 |
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I am posting this as a new subject as it is not so much about the effectiveness of Debacterol (which I an unable to comment on) but how to get it in UK.
Here follows a copyof a letter to Dom which is self explanatory:
<<<<<Doubt if you remember me but we bought some Sqiggle a while back and my wife came and picked it up at your house.
I have become increasingly more interested in Debacterol (aka HypenX (Canada, maybe Europe), aka Apthe Relief Pro or Oral Medic (UK). http://www.drugdigest.org/DD/DVH/Uses/0,3915,8135%7CDebacterol,00.html
You have an interview with Reg Dupre, then CEO of Northern Research Labs, now Epien (www.epien.com) on your site. This has now become a bit dated as APPARENTLY Henry Schein now distribute it world wide and obtained MRHA approval a year or so ago.
I have failed to track it down in UK (or in Spain, where I am). Schein wont reply to emails asking for availability details, let alone details of any clinical studies. None of the 8 doctors/dentist my daughter has seen this last year have ever heard of the stuff. She has been seen by the No 1 expert Prof Dxxxxx Hxxxxxx and he does not seem to know about it either. (Hxxxxx is an expert on Behcets and thus should know all there is to know about RAS but the best he was able to offer were the usual palliative mouth washes etc).
From my investigation I find that Epien is a very small little (family owned?) company -- less than 100 employees. I think they knew they were onto a money spinner and kept it private. Being so small they had difficulty getting their voice heard. So when Henry Schein made a deal to distribute they were happy. However Schein have concentrated activities in USA/Canada and dont seem to have bothered about Europe. The only person in their organization who replies to my emails is their webmaster who keeps on sending my request for info to one department to another, to one manager to another manaer. And I get no replies!
Would you like to take up this cause in the interests of fellow sufferers? Debacterol seems to offer a unique approach to treatment and I think we should all know more about it and how to get it.
I am posting (if I can!) this on your forum too.
Kind Regards
Denis
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| Denis 6 September 05 |
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Aloha potential Debacterol users,
I have first hand experience with this product. I flew to the mainland from Hawaii to have my ulcers treated with this well recommended product.
Within 6 hours of treatment, my ulcers were 3 times worse and it was weeks before they were back to where they were before I left Hawaii. For me the word Depacterol is a threat. I will do almost anything to have it as far away from me as possible.
I know many people have said it really helped them, but I believe we have different kinds of mouth ulcers that respond differently to what is tried.
Unless you know why you have mouth ulcers, you have to be prepared for treatments to fail and for more pain than you can imagine beforehand.
Keep us informed, It’s the only source many of us have for hope and good advice. |
| Naneki 15 September 05 |
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| I had such bad sores under my tongue that talking brought tears to my eyes and I could barely eat anything except tofu, oatmeal, etc. I discovered Debacterol and bought one treatment from the one drug store in my city that sold it. It was a miracle for me! Yes, sulphuric acid burns the sucker away and stings unbelievably for 5 seconds. But then, the sore is gone and absolutely no more pain. I haven’t had a sore since using it twice after buying a case directly from the manufacturer. Definitely my miracle cure |
| Ingrid Weber 18 September 05 |
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| Do you know where to buy Debacterol ? |
| Michael 16 October 05 |
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It’s interesting to hear that Debacterol doesn’t work for some. I’ve suffered with canker sores most of my adult life, I’m 53, and Debacterol was the first thing that I have ever tried that worked and worked fast. My first treatment was at a dentist’s office, and I was his first trial. I had a huge ulcer on the roof of my mouth, one that even my dentist was shocked by. He applied the Debacterol to the ulcer, and yes, it did feel like a hot poker for a few seconds, which is nothing compared to the ongoing pain and discomfort of these miserable afflictions. After the treatment, all mouth pain was gone, and I could actually eat and talk free from pain. I had another sore appear on the tip of my tongue this week, which was both new and ridiculous. I had saved some of the Debacterol from my dentist’s visit and put it on my tongue. The ulcer is still a little sore, but nothing like before. I encourage all who suffer from this pox to give it a try, just make sure you follow the directions to the letter. I found Debacterol at Dr Charles’ Smile Center on the internet. It’s not cheap, but then I’m sure all of us would pay a King’s ransom for a little relief.
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| Kim 1 December 05 |
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| My name is Dr. Laudie DDS. I have used this product personally, my orthodontist uses it, and I did a case study on it in dental school. It's painful to apply, but works very well. It is believed that the reason you get an ulcer (canker sore) is because your body is reacting to that area and causing the mucosa to sluff off. Debacterol kills that tissue and deadens the nerves in the area. The reaction ceases and the person is able to begin healing. I find that within 5 days the ulcer is nearly gone, as opposed to 14 days. The best part is that the pain is bearable within seconds after application. (some large canker sores require two applications). |
| Dr. Laudie 26 January 10 |
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| This is the best product out there for pain relief but it only lasts a day for me. I still use it even other day if i have a really large sore. I usually buy it from my dentist but she charges me $10 per schwab. Any suggestions on where i can get it cheaper and if insurance covers it? |
| adam 3 February 10 |
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| I began having canker sores two years ago after an injection of Perlayne and Botox. Mybe not related but I had never had canker sores before. I tried everything, taking Lysine, changing toothpaste etc. My dentist tried Debacterol on a large sore and within days it was healed. I took home a "single use dose" and used it again a week later on another devloping sore. It works very well, the pain in application is NOTHING compared to 14 days of pain and swollen glands when a sore is active! I would love to find a cure to avoid even getting these darn sores but in the meantime this is the best thing do use! |
| Marcie March 26, 2010 28 March 10 |
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| I need some debacterol right now, lots of pain, i can't even drink water. I'm willing to smuggle items to you in exchange. Please hlp. |
| Steve 2 May 10 |
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I called my dentist and next hour went to Wall greens to pick up prescription
If you can not do it buy non prescription Oral Analgesic Benzocaine it relive pain.. |
| Nikita 10 May 10 |
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Walgreens in the USA or elsewhere? Walgreens doesn't have Debacterol on their list of medications, and the Debacterol site says that consumers cannot use it - only dentists can use it.
A comment on what I think of Debacterol - it is like gold to me - LOVE IT, and I don't want to live without it!
A usage hint: if you have a single swab applicator - have a small glass bottle with lid, and let the contents of your single swab drip into the bottle. Then use something like a paintbrush, plastic fork tine, orange stick to dip into it & dab it on. It will last through multiple episodes. The strength seems to not be as strong the longer it is in the bottle - but it still works, and better than wasting an entire swab on one tiny sore. |
| Jumoe 14 May 10 |
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I've suffered from persistent canker sores for almost 30 years and finally had the chance to give this product a try. My experience has been mixed:
-Generally speaking, after application, the type of stinging pain from an ulcer dissipates but not completely, and is replaced by a lesser pain caused by the cauterizing. In other words, my experience has been that the product doesn't eliminate pain entirely as claimed, but certainly does reduce the type of pain normally produced by canker sores.
-The pain reduction is far less on sores that are on or close to the gum tissue; I would hazard a guess that this is because the nerves in the gum tissue are deeper. Pain reduction on softer tissue like typical lip surface has been much, much better.
-It's been my experience that one needs to apply the product far longer than recommended. I usually need to apply for 20 seconds, sometimes longer, in order to cauterize the sore sufficiently. Five seconds has been nowhere close to long enough.
-Generally speaking, 1-2 days after applying Debacterol, the ulcer remains and pain returns but at a lesser magnitude. The injury to the surrounding oral mucosa is usually healed by this time.
-Debacterol GREATLY accelerates healing time of sores. Generally my sores will heal up within 3-4 days after application as opposed to the 10-14 without the medication.
So bottom line,
-Don't expect that this will kill all of the pain
-You will probably need to apply it much longer than recommended
-Ulcer will remain pain will return to some degree for some time
-Healing time is greatly accelerated.
The healing factor alone is more than enough justification to use the product... Recommend. |
| M Smith 9 June 10 |
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| My 16 year-old son has suffered with giant, recurrent canker sores for years. We've tried all the tips recommended by the pediatrician, orthodontist, and a couple of different dentists (including the inane suggestion of "reducing stress"), but nothing worked beyond a minute or two of relief from some mouth rinse. He was headed out the door last week to full-contact, two-a-day football practice in the Dallas August heat with four canker sores. He's strong and tough, but it was all I could do to watch him have to endure that. I sat down in front of my computer, determined to find a solution before he returned. First, I found a dentist in Houston who uses Debacterol and was tempted to get on a plane with my son to go there for treatment. But I kept searching and found a dentist in Dallas who could see us on a Friday (apparently many dentists work only Monday through Thursday), Dr. Sugg at Wheatland Dental Care. The office manager there patiently answered my questions and told me she had used the product herself. DEBACTEROL IS A MIRACLE! The treatment itself was painful, but only for a minute, and he walked out of the office pain free and now, five days later, is still pain free. UNBELIEVABLE!! WHY don't more dentists, pharmacists, and physicians know about this? I am so grateful. We now have an answer for this awful affliction. |
| Diane B. 17 August 10 |
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| i am alvin, i am suffering from mouth ulcer for 15 years and debacterol is the only cure, but now i am in saudi arabia and theres no debacterol here. how can u help me. |
| alvin 2 September 10 |
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