 Everytime I drink alcohol I get cankers...anyone know why?? 27 messages in this subject
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| I am surprised by how many ppl suffer from these like I do! I thought something was wrong with me since I always seem to get multiple sores on my tongue, mouth, etc..Anyway, I realize that everytime I go out drinking (which isnt too often anymore now that Im out of college), I wind up with an ulcer or 2 or 3 when I wake up, or later on during the next day or two. I noticed that when I go out drinking and go to bed, i sleep with my mouth open and wake up with my mouth being VERY VERY dry. And within a couple hours i will develope an ulcer. A couple years ago when i was going out all the time, i would almost never not have a canker sore, but once I graduated and stopped going out and stopped drinking all the time, i would go months without one. I just recently started keeping track of when I get them and it is almost always right after drinking alcohol and me sleeping with a dry mouth. So that explains why in college i used to have so many..but my question is..is it my dry mouth causing them or is it the alcohol contents itself?? Does anyone else have this same condition?? Thanks! |
| Rich 19 May 08 |
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| I am currently suffering from multiple ulcers on my tongue and roof of my mouth -I went out on the biggest beer/cider session 3 days ago and it all started the day after, i too slept with my mouth open and could hardly peel my tongue of the roof of my mouth in the morning...not meaning to be horrible but glad somebody else got this so i know it's sort of normal..i thought i had some kind of disease as i have never had them on the roof of my mouth or soooo many! |
| Duncan 7 July 08 |
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Unfortunately I have experienced this problem too. I tried to deny that Alcohol was a contributing cause but it certainly is. To prevent ulcers I have had to moderate my drinking. Now whilst my friends get lavishly drunk I have to intersperse drinks with water and ensure that I don’t get too drunk basically.
HOWEVER. Recently I have started taking Aloe Vera twice a day (and stopped eating nuts). I buy the pure juice stuff (about £20/2 litres, lasts over a month). I have found (after 10 years of pain) that this really keeps a lid on the ulcers, they don’t reach the same size or remain as long. It has helped especially with tongue ulcers.
On the down side I believe that ulcer cures are largely dependant on the individual case but I defiantly recommend giving it a go. Cheers, Matt.
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| Matt Gale 11 July 08 |
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YEAST YEAST YEAST!! I really think that this could be a factor in Ulcer Acceleration. If you are out on the tiles and having the odd tipple try to stick to non-yeasty drinks and low in sugar ones. You may have oral thrush and Daktarin or Nystatin or something like that (it comes in a little dropper/squeegey thing) could help you.
When out, also have a glass of water to keep your mouth hydrated - this can be in addiction of an alcoholic one not a substitute!
Hope this helps......remember I don't know what I'm talking about I just know what has worked for me and I would always advocate speaking with a Doctor and/or Pharmacist :-)
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| Lucie - Crohn's Chick 14 July 08 |
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| Do you think it is all alcohol or just beer/ale? I don't notice it with wine. I had a beer on Sunday night, however, and by Thursday had an awful mouth full of ulcers. |
| Holly 25 July 08 |
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I noticed this as well, I've just recently turned 20, for the past 2 years or so I've been having extremely bad cankers.
Recently I stopped drinking for about a month, no cancers! It was my girlfriends 19th birthday, a while ago and I had alot of beer that night, the next day 3 cancers, it's been a week since then and they've only grown to be about twice the size! It's ridiculous.
I have tried taking acidophilus yogurt though and swishing it around in my mouth. It seems to speed up the curing process.
What do you guys/girls use to prevent them? I don't want to stop drinking. Next time out I will try Vodka to see if it's just the beer. |
| Justin 26 July 08 |
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| The beer-mouth ulcer/canker sore connection is what made me realize, 8 years ago, that I was gluten-intolerant. The ulcers or sores are often a symptom of the intolerance. Now I drink only Anheuser-Busch's Redbridge gluten-free beer. |
| TomF 26 July 08 |
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I developed ulcers after I left college and im still getting them 20 years later. As I was drinking a lot at college and not getting ulcers Im not sure about alcohol being the cause of my ulcers, however its definitely a trigger. If I wake up with a dry mouth due to alcohol consumption and/or sleeping with my mouth open ulcers often appear.
I find a nasal spray helps me sleep with my mouth shut, keeping the mouth moist and therefore prevent ulcers. |
| Stewart 20 November 08 |
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| When I have a bad dose, I use alcohol as a sort of painkiller while eating - goes like this: swill some wine around your mouth and surf the pain for a minute until it starts to subside, start eating and wash down with gulps of wine, then have another glass to finish. Too much wine and you wake up with worse ulcers. So the whole process is delusional... |
| urardo 8 December 08 |
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guys and girls, i went to see the doctor recently with the same problem and was advised to buy some dispersible aspirin (300mg), dissolve the tablets, and swirl the stuff round in my mouth. it's been very very good for keeping the pain down, and apparently, it also helps reduce the infection because aspirin is anti-inflammatory.
btw, the events leading up to the ulcer were similar to what has been described. lots of alcohol, followed by sleeping with my mouth wide open, followed by a dry mouth, and finally, the ulcers. |
| filter 14 March 09 |
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I don't get ulcers from drinking; but DEFINITELY get them from toothpaste. There is an ingredient - laurel stearate (sp?) that causes the problem. I used to buy toothpaste without it but it is almost impossible to fine these days so I o longer use any. No more problem for six years! |
| librarian_ 15 March 09 |
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| Alcohol is liquid sugar which bacteria thrives on in your system and the bacteria in your system causes these tongue ulcers! I know this because I have only found after much experimenting and tests that the antibiotic Clarithromycin which kill bacteria takes away my huge tongue ulcers. Now if anyone can find something else to kill the bad bacteria in our system without the antibiotic Clarithromycin 500mg 2x per day with a meal..you would make a fortune...still researching....please respond if you know of anything! Also beer has yeast and you may have Candida which is yeast related. |
| Rose 25 April 09 |
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Hi Guys / Girls, well it's been almost a year since my last check in.
The Cankers are still here, awful.
Once again I was drinking, this time it was mostly hard alcohol and a few beers. I woke up with an extremely dry mouth, and with in a day or two a few smaller ones had formed.
It's now been 1 month since I've had them and it's getting ridiculous, they won't go away. The one small one I had formed into 4 or 5 large ones, then once those were gone a few more smaller ones showed up and now they are getting larger.
I hate Cankers! :(
It sucks too, cause it always seems to happen to me when the weather gets nice out. |
| Justin 3 July 09 |
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| i always get mouth ulcers when i go on holiday and when i drink alcohol i sometimes get that many i have hot temps followed by sweating in bed.they kill ive never made the last day of my holiday yet ,when i can say i feel good. found that diflam spay works. but the best cure is good rest and ecencea think thats how u spell it . |
| carlos 5 July 09 |
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| after many years of ulcers and moaning about them to friends and family, I finally went to the doctor about them. I got a blood test and found out that I had a vitamin B12 deficiency. I now have top-up injections and whilst I do still get ulcers (esp. after drinking too much alcohol ) they are much less often. |
| bex 30 September 09 |
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| I am starting to wonder if the sulphites found in most white wine make an outbreak of bad ulcers more likely? I am starting to see a link for me anyway. I seem to get more come out after drinking white wine than other alcohol. |
| Jo 23 October 09 |
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| Try Peroni lager it is made from Barley and Maize..something to do with the grains and common yeasts in most beers and largers..I found Peroni works |
| Mich 22 December 09 |
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I find alcohol, including beer and wine will cause my ulcers. I have traced this back to this acidity in both. Tomatoes similarly will trigger one or even a fairly pure orange juice. It all links to acidity and if stressed or run down, this is more likely to happen. A lack of Vitamin B may also be a cause. Hot (salty/spicy) food also.
Just like no one particular cause, there is no one treatment that works perfectly in my experience. Avoiding the above while you have an ulcer / ulcers is recommended and also rest. Warm water mixed with table / sea salt is very good for healing. Swirling this up to 5 times a day helps. Kenalog is also very good to apply for healing. Lots of stuff out there to numb pain that dont heal, bonjlla being one.
Unfortunately I drink lots of cranberry anyway and this does not help me. Nor mercurius viv or lysene.
Avoiding toothpaste with Sodium Laurel Sulphate may help and changing brush regularly to avoid bacteria on brush building up.
Ulcers are terrible things and hopefully the above may help. Cheers. |
| ChrisD January 2010 3 January 10 |
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| I am afraid I am suffering from the same thing, going through a bad time right now so have been drinking more and my mouth is full of ulcers, tip of my tongue, underneath and on the roof of my mouth, they are really painful and are affecting me to the point where I can't talk properly, it definately is the alcohol, I am going to try the tips on here, hope you all get yours sorted. |
| tracey b 9 January 10 |
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| Hello, I'm 20 and have been suffering with re-occuring mouth ulcers for the last 3 years. I have had mouth swabs and blood tests but have all come back normal. I to, get to the point where it's hard to talk because of the pain. Alcohol definetly makes them worse, and since reading your comments I've realised there's definetly a link between having foods and drinks high in acidity then ulcers errupting... I'm now going to watch my diet and see if they improve. It's just hard when I like to have a drink now and again! |
| Hannah 1 March 10 |
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| I have found exactly the same. If I don't drink alcohol I don't get ulcers, or very rarely anyway. Everytime I have alcohol (more than a coupla drinks anyway), I get them and they seem to last for an age. can't say I've noticed whether beer or wine related or not, when I have another drink I'll experiment but at the moment it doesn't appeal |
| Carolyn 29 March 10 |
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| Definitely think that there is a connection between mouth ulcers and wine, particularly white wine. It seems to me that its the acid in the wine that causes them. I know that if I go out and drink alot of wine, I pay for it in terms of a massive increase in the numbers of mouth ulcers I get. I also get reflux probs and and acidic feeling in my stomach. |
| sara 1 July 10 |
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| I agree with you Sara re the white wine but also grapes white or red do the same for me and other citrus fruits, great when you can identify any trigger and keep eliminating the source. I find white spirits ie gin or vidka, bacardi etc ( careful with the mixers though) has little effect on my ulcers. It is a trying time that is for sure for ulcer sufferers. |
| Bob 1 July 10 |
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| I find that when I eat pineapple it makes my tongue sore, this is usually then followed with ulcers appearing. Tomatoes doe the same. I gave up smoking 2 years ago and took to eating boiled sweets - they do the same thing now. But since stopping smoking I am getting ulcers in my mouth, under my tongue and now they have started in my throat. Difflam oral rinse (bright green colour) has helped a lot but I think that is because it has an anaesthetic feature to it which numbs the pain. I hadn't thought about the beer but have just come back from Spain and did have far more ulcers and was drinking beer so will watch out for that too. I take a vitamin B complex supplement and this does tend to keep me ulcer clear for longer periods and does help them to clear up quicker too (now 3-5 days instead of 7-10 days!). |
| Jayne 1 July 10 |
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| I have realized that when I drink canned beer I get blisters/ulcers on my tongue. I definitely believe that the canned beer verses bottled beer has something to do with it. I am going to go on a Vit. B diet to see if this helps. My Dr. prescribed Lidocaine to numb the pain so that I can eat. It works well but the numbness goes away in about 20 to 30 minutes. So have your food ready and eat fast! Pain killers do not really work for me. Sleep seems to be helping in many ways. I do believe that a lack of sleep and beer/canned beer have caused the blisters in my mouth. |
| Amber 2 July 10 |
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| I too have been suffering from cankers since university... After numerous painfull outbreaks I have finally found my triggers to be beer, wine, etc or anything with yeast is seems...Even bread seems to cause break outs, again because of the yeast. I have found a system that works for me, and cut WAY down on the number of cankers: 1. Stop drinking sugary drinks like beer/cider/wine of any kind. (Vodka-Soda seems to be fine so this is now my drink of choice) 2. Switch to SLS-free toothpaste (SLS seems to cause irritation of the mouth and promote canker formation). 3. Limit the amount of bread/grain products eaten if possible. These 3 things have made a HUGE difference in the number of cankers I get and hoepfully this will help the rest of you suffering with the same problem. |
| Frank 22 July 10 |
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I agree with a lot of the above comments and also have been trying without much success to find the causes and cures. After having them constantly for 30 years I am now ready to do battle :-) I was told that mine were triggered at age 12 by possible trauma and grief at losing a granparent. From there on being run down and stressed left me more prone to getting them aided by certain triggers - namely;
Fruit esp pineapples, strawberries, kiwifruit, tamarillos. Spicy and too hot foods. Too much yeast hence the alcohol espec beer and breads. Foods that have a rough exterior eg crisps, french bread, peanuts which leads me to too much salt and lastly but importantly is the amount of sugars in cordials, cups of tea , fizzy drinks. Have learnt that too much sugar cannot always be dealt with and balanced hence off-balancing the natural phd levels in the digestive system creating too much acid build up and not enough alkaline. Read 'Acids/Alkalines' section at www.angelfire.com - very informative and what I feel to be the main key in revealing the crux of our ulcer problems. Ps use non sls toothpaste. Good luck everyone :-) |
| Guy, Southampton 23 July 10 |
