Food Additives

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I experienced many problems over a couple years, which included mouth ulcers and other problems that didn't initially seem to be connected. I could not find any information on people having similar reactions to food coloring. Once I got frustrated enough, I began playing with my diet and became more and more scientific about it, reducing my diet to completely unprocessed foods for a couple months to establish a baseline. I then began adding foods into my diet and waiting for various periods of time to note any reactions. I found several additives that I react to. The most noticeable reaction was to food coloring (yellow and red are the most common in foods I like). Both yellow and red cause mouth ulcers and I verified
this conclusion by going back on my diet after the ulcers emerged, waiting a couple weeks until the ulcers had disappeared before testing the food coloring again. Red seemed to cause much worse ulcers than yellow, but I am not sure how much of each coloring was in each food, so I don't know if the quantity, rather than the type played into my reaction. During the course of my experiments, I found that most of my favorite foods are off limits. I love pigging out on icecream, but can't eat my favorite flavors because of the ingredients. It is important to note that I also had chronic insomnia that I eventually cured. The cause of the insomnia went overlooked because I could not see deep inside of my digestive tract. I eventually made an educated guess that I had ulcers in my digestive tract, which caused my insomnia, along with moods swings (RAGE!!!!!!!) and poor mental performance. These ulcers completely rendered me worthless as a human and since I found out what was happening and eliminated the problem foods I have become a new person. Rage and insomnia went away with the ulcers of my digestive tract (including my mouth). I also found that once my digestive system gets an ulcer, I become intolerant of other foods, which compounds all my other problems. I did seek medical help for my problems before I had figured out what was happening and doctors did nothing but prescribe drugs and improperly diagnose me. I suspected sleep apnea before visiting the doctors and I had to find out on my own what was causing the apnea, because the doctors only wanted to offer me lifelong care (a breathing machine and ambien). I hope there are some good doctors out there, but it seems to me that we must be our own health care professionals.
Alex Smith 14 September 13
Hi Gemma, Thanks for the info and I’ll check it out. I came across my reaction to some choc after Easter when I ate one of my young grandaughters Easter eggs! Just a little one but it had been bought from an el cheapo shop and certainly wasn’t quality and within mins of eating my tongue had reacted. I am planning to travel to Europe in about a couple of years so will have to be watchful I guess. I seldom buy prepared food so I can control what goes into most of my food - a couple of wks ago though I took my Dad out for a meal and we had a mixed seafood platter and again within in mins I reacted - tracked it back to the packeted Tartare sauce so one has to be forever vigilant. I wonder why I have just started to have this reaction and think it is just my body screaming ’enough’ of the additives’!!! I had spent the previous 18mths under the care of a nutritionist who helped me lose my excess weight and I guess my body was so used to the healthy food it didn’t like it when I started to add other things back to my diet - valuable lesson. I hope our little conversation has helped someone else become aware of what may be their ulcer trigger - I feel from reading some of the other messages here, that folk are too busy looking for a ’cure’ to look for the ’cause’. Best wishes and take care
Janice 30 June 07
Hi Janice. This is a useful website: http://www.laleva.cc/food/enumbers/Enumbers.html
You can click on some of the E numbers listed and it provides a lot more information on each. Interestingly I do seem to react to most of the ones listed as ”possible allergic reaction”, but I also react to high concentrations of ”natural” colourings too. In fact, it was through drinking a blackcurrant drink, which contained very high concentrations of anthocyanins to give the dark red/purple colour, that made me realise what is was that caused my mouth ulcers. Although naturally found in plants, anthocyanins are potent chemicals released by the plants to fend off pests and diseases. So I blame the artificially high concentration of this ’natural’ colouring for having its bad effect on me!

I’ve actually just returned to the UK from a few months in Australia. Alas, I suffered with mouth ulcers there after being ulcer-free in the UK for over a year. This was simply because I’m used to the types of food over here that have additives that are bad for me. However, I did not realise that Australia would be so different! One example was that some chocolate products seem to have colours in. I got caught out because the store-baked double choc chip cookies from a particular supermarket were ok if i bought the giant-sized ones, but the regular-sized cookies had colouring in! We had not checked the regular since we thought they’d be the same as the giant, but just smaller! Just goes to show you can never be too sure. Take care.
Gemma 29 June 07
Hi Gemma, Thanks for your interesting reply. Would it be possible for you to give me the additive numbers that were banned in other countries please? I will check and see what the situation is here in Aust. I certainly don’t want myself, my children or grandchildren swallowing these things if it can be avoided. Maybe our collective govts need a good kick! Strangely my first really bad episode of ulcers (March) happened the day/night I first drank the cask wine and then had a piece of my son-in-laws birthday cake which had one of those store bought multi colour plaque decorations on top of it - it was I think a case of double whammy - within in mins of eating the cake I felt as if my throat was closing up and had to use my ventolin and take an anti-histimine tab. I am a very mild asthma sufferer and generally only react to extreme cold temp (not often here in Qld!) or humidity, cats and dogs. Certainly hadn’t experienced an attack like that before. I checked the plaque ingredients and it was full of additives. I steer clear of any colours now. Best wishes
Janice 28 June 07
Hi Janice. I too get mouth ulcers with food additives, so you are not alone. Artificial food colourings are particularly bad; colours cause me the most painful, large mouth ulcers that prevent me from talking and eating properly for days and even weeks at a time. On investigation, I was shocked to find that many of the ones that affect me are actually banned in several countries such as the US because of the bad effects they can have, such as being carcinogenic, or toxic above certain concentrations etc. Alas, many of these ones banned in other countries are still allowed here in the UK. Happily, though, many of my family and friends have stopped eating foods with added artificial colours because they know how badly I have been affected and how unnecessary it is to add such things to foods. To help us all in avoiding such things, I have even made a credit-card sized list of all the additives that are bad for me and I keep this in my purse to refer to when shopping and have given copies to other people to help avoid ever being blighted again by mouth ulcers! Good luck in your quest to do the same!
Gemma 28 June 07
Hi all, I checked out this site a month or so ago as I was being troubled with ulcers - on my tongue mainly but some on the side of my mouth as well. I had had the occasional one over the years but they suddenly became an almost continual thing. I did the research, tried eliminating things from my diet and finally found the culprit - additives 220 and 221 are the cause - well for me anyway. They are preservatives used in a lot of food we eat daily and are deemed ’safe’ by the government - I tracked my intake from wine - apparently they are added to most wines (here in Australia anyway) and in much larger quantities in cask wine. I had been drinking bottle wine but decided because $s were tight to buy casks and from there on my troubles started. I have also found dried fruits, some cheap chocolates, some food colours upset me too. Elimination of wine and other things cleared up my problem perhaps this info may be of use to another sufferer, somewhere. I do so hope so. Best wishes all.
Janice 28 June 07

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Food Additives

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